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Legitimate Telepathic Powers are Physically Impossible
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From Telepathy - Wikipedia:
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Telepathy (Greek τηλε, tele meaning "distant" and πάθεια, patheia meaning "to be affected by",) is supposed to be the transfer of information on thoughts or feelings between individuals by means other than the five senses (See Psi). The term was coined in 1882 by the classical scholar Fredric W. H. Myers, a founder of the Society for Psychical Research, specifically to replace the earlier expression thought-transference. A person who is able to make use of telepathy is said to be able to read the thoughts and stored information in the brain of others. Telepathy, along with psychokinesis forms the main branches of parapsychological research, and many studies seeking to detect, understand, utilize telepathy have been done within the field.
There is no accepted mechanism by which telepathy can work, and there is no definition which unambiguously distinguishes it from a number of other related concepts such as clairvoyance, so the concept is not accepted by the scientific community
Telepathy is a common theme in modern fiction and science fiction, with many superheroes and supervillains having telepathic abilities. Such abilities include sensing the thoughts of others.




The telepathy theory implies that one organism can literally perceive the perceptions (e.g.- the thoughts) of other individual organisms, and seeing that perceptions are a function of the brain, it is impossible for one organism with its own brain to be able to perceive any of the perceptions experienced by any other organism; even if an organism's brain state exactly mimicked that of another organism, it would still be the former organism experiencing reality via its own individual perceptions.


I would say that, instead of being telepathic, individuals who claim to have telepathic powers are actually more likely to have a high emotional intelligence.
From Emotional Intelligence:
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Emotional Intelligence (EI) describes the ability, capacity, skill or, in the case of the trait EI model, a self-perceived ability, to identify, assess, and manage the emotions of one's self, of others, and of groups. Different models have been proposed for the definition of EI and disagreement exists as to how the term should be used. Despite these disagreements, which are often highly technical, the ability EI and trait EI models (but not the mixed models) enjoy support in the literature and have successful applications in different domains.




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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

Edited by Poid (11/17/09 04:31 PM)

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Re: Legitimate Telepathic Powers are Physically Impossible [Re: Poid]
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You hafta take the astral plane into account.


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Re: Legitimate Telepathic Powers are Physically Impossible [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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First-class or business-class? :borfase:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Legitimate Telepathic Powers are Physically Impossible [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Re: Legitimate Telepathic Powers are Physically Impossible [Re: learningtofly]
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Isn't that the Soul Plane?


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Re: Legitimate Telepathic Powers are Physically Impossible [Re: Poid]
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I think that definition is lacking as it doesn't rule out technology.  Using a cell phone would fit the bill for telepathy using that definition.

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Re: Legitimate Telepathic Powers are Physically Impossible [Re: DieCommie]
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what exactly is the astral plane is it proven in any way, or even a solid conceptual model set forth?


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Re: Legitimate Telepathic Powers are Physically Impossible [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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birds do it to me alot, they'll fly close when i'm on the right thought and some will leave when my thought goes "offtrack" you sure animals don't have telepathic abilities?

but to back you you would have to speak on a certain wavelength for a higher sound may block the communication

also, some wouldn't want you to be able to communicate with them telepathically because your thoughts may be impure and might offend the other person

i have been trying to communicate telepathically for almost 5 years now

Edited by giza (11/17/09 05:09 PM)

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Re: Legitimate Telepathic Powers are Physically Impossible [Re: DieCommie]
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Telepathy (Greek τηλε, tele meaning "distant" and πάθεια, patheia meaning "to be affected by",) is supposed to be the transfer of information on thoughts or feelings between individuals by means [gradient:#067016,#]other than the five senses[/gradient] (See Psi).


I don't think you are correct, here.

Is communicating via a cell phone the same thing as communicating information between individuals by means other than the five senses? I don't think so.


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Legitimate Telepathic Powers are Physically Impossible [Re: Poid]
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You can see microwaves?  I call bull shit.  :tongue:

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Re: Legitimate Telepathic Powers are Physically Impossible [Re: DieCommie]
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I can hear voices. :shrug:

:blah:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Legitimate Telepathic Powers are Physically Impossible [Re: Poid]
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Poid said:
I can hear voices. :shrug:

:blah:



me too, isn't it great

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Re: Legitimate Telepathic Powers are Physically Impossible [Re: giza]
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I meant over the telephone. :crazy2:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Legitimate Telepathic Powers are Physically Impossible [Re: giza]
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birds do it to me alot, they'll fly close when i'm on the right thought and some will leave when my thought goes "offtrack" you sure animals don't have telepathic abilities?




Demonstrate that you can communicate with birds telepathically and win a million dollars -

or

you can write a dozen posts explaining why you know it's real, but won't take the challenge.


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Re: Legitimate Telepathic Powers are Physically Impossible [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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birds do it to me alot, they'll fly close when i'm on the right thought and some will leave when my thought goes "offtrack" you sure animals don't have telepathic abilities?




Demonstrate that you can communicate with birds telepathically and win a million dollars -

or

you can write a dozen posts explaining why you kknow it's real, but won't take the challenge.



i didn't mean i could communicate completely with telepathy, it just seems the birds can, i cannot, but hope to someday be able to, when i try to i end up sending wrong thought or whatever

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Re: Legitimate Telepathic Powers are Physically Impossible [Re: giza]
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i believe i can percieve telepathy just not allowed to communicate

Edited by giza (11/17/09 05:42 PM)

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Re: Legitimate Telepathic Powers are Physically Impossible [Re: giza]
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If you can't communicate telepathically, what makes you think that a less intelligent creature can? :confused:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Legitimate Telepathic Powers are Physically Impossible [Re: giza]
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giza said:
i believe i can percieve telepathy just not allowed to communicate


Can you please elaborate?


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Legitimate Telepathic Powers are Physically Impossible [Re: Poid]
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Poid said:
If you can't communicate telepathically, what makes you think that a less intelligent creature can? :confused:



because what if the creature gave up the ability to be a human in order to gain telepathy, a creature that is less of a threat when confronted with hostility, wouldn't you rather a bird speak to you telepathically rather than a human?

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Re: Legitimate Telepathic Powers are Physically Impossible [Re: Poid]
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Poid said:
giza said:
i believe i can percieve telepathy just not allowed to communicate


Can you please elaborate?



i can understand what they're trying to say to me yet when i try to make them respond for my own benefit i am ignored

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