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Re: apple is a bunch of crooks [Re: frith]
    #11482119 - 11/18/09 09:31 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Talk about bloated.  Convert that into VBR, -V0 --vbr-new LAME style.  There is no chance you can hear the difference

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Re: apple is a bunch of crooks [Re: Chespirito]
    #11482140 - 11/18/09 09:34 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Talk about bloated.  Convert that into VBR, -V0 --vbr-new LAME style.  There is no chance you can hear the difference




debatable.. mp3s always sound tinny to me.


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Re: apple is a bunch of crooks [Re: frith]
    #11482178 - 11/18/09 09:40 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Placebo, here use this script:

for file in *.flac; do $(flac -cd "$file" | lame -V0 --vbr-new - "${file%.flac}.mp3"); done

Try that on one FLAC album, A/B them and youll see

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Re: apple is a bunch of crooks [Re: Chespirito]
    #11482551 - 11/18/09 10:28 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Chespirito said:
Placebo, here use this script:

for file in *.flac; do $(flac -cd "$file" | lame -V0 --vbr-new - "${file%.flac}.mp3"); done

Try that on one FLAC album, A/B them and youll see




nope. still sounds like shit. it may be the headphones im using though. they are a hell of a lot better than the cheapo $30 things you get at target.


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Re: apple is a bunch of crooks [Re: frith]
    #11482594 - 11/18/09 10:32 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Nah theres no chance, I use several hundred dollar Grado headphones.  Its either all in your head, or you have a corrupt version of flac or LAME

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Re: apple is a bunch of crooks [Re: Chespirito]
    #11482664 - 11/18/09 10:40 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Nah theres no chance, I use several hundred dollar Grado headphones.  Its either all in your head, or you have a corrupt version of flac or LAME




ive had a pair of grados in the past. pretty nice.

right now im using a pair of beyerdynamic dt 880 pros.

its def not in my head though. mp3s just dont sound as good. and i dont have all of my music in FLAC. 80s punk doesnt need to be that high quality :smile:


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Re: apple is a bunch of crooks [Re: cashus]
    #11482667 - 11/18/09 10:41 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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zens by creative are very nice my friend has one and i enjoy them i ahve a iphone my self so i just  listen to that





YEP.  I gots me a Zen too.  It's a great product.  :thumbup:


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Re: apple is a bunch of crooks [Re: frith]
    #11482873 - 11/18/09 11:10 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Yea those are decent headphones, Ive heard them.  However I still will claim theres no way you can pass a blind hearing test.  You did a VBR with -V0?  Do you have the newest version of LAME?  The older ones have a poorly functioning --vbr-new , the new version is now equivalent to the old --vbr-old

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Re: apple is a bunch of crooks [Re: Chespirito]
    #11493755 - 11/20/09 03:32 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I saw that it had no face buttons, but I figured the buttons would be on a detachable adapter, not directly fused to the worthless little 5-cent piece of tinny garbage they call earbuds. I don't even use earbuds that often, but when I do I have actual good ones that would have still been useless with this thing.
Apple is indefensible IMO. Their brand status has reached a point where customer satisfaction is an afterthought, at least in the iPod area. :shrug:

The Sansa is pretty good so far. Does what I want it to do. I'm probably going to get another MP3 player with much larger storage at some point when I'm in more comfortable shape financially, and I plan on looking for alternatives to the iPod Classic.


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Re: apple is a bunch of crooks [Re: frith]
    #11494598 - 11/20/09 05:44 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Placebo, here use this script:

for file in *.flac; do $(flac -cd "$file" | lame -V0 --vbr-new - "${file%.flac}.mp3"); done

Try that on one FLAC album, A/B them and youll see




nope. still sounds like shit. it may be the headphones im using though. they are a hell of a lot better than the cheapo $30 things you get at target.




ipods do FLAC these days?  That's news to me.  Even if they do, there is no way the shitty little amp inside your ipod is going to output anything significantly better when playing a flac over an mp3.  Or, let me guess, you carry around an amp too?  :tongue:

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Re: apple is a bunch of crooks [Re: Chespirito]
    #11494604 - 11/20/09 05:45 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Nah theres no chance, I use several hundred dollar Grado headphones.  Its either all in your head, or you have a corrupt version of flac or LAME




Grados FTW...  I gots me a pair myself.  I've had them so long I needed to replace the earpads 3 years ago and still haven't gotten around to doing it.  They still sound great.

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Re: apple is a bunch of crooks [Re: ChuangTzu]
    #11494613 - 11/20/09 05:46 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Placebo, here use this script:

for file in *.flac; do $(flac -cd "$file" | lame -V0 --vbr-new - "${file%.flac}.mp3"); done

Try that on one FLAC album, A/B them and youll see




nope. still sounds like shit. it may be the headphones im using though. they are a hell of a lot better than the cheapo $30 things you get at target.




ipods do FLAC these days?  That's news to me.  Even if they do, there is no way the shitty little amp inside your ipod is going to output anything significantly better when playing a flac over an mp3.  Or, let me guess, you carry around an amp too?  :tongue:




i do FLAC on the home stereo. when transfering to the ipod i transcode to aac lossless.


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Re: apple is a bunch of crooks [Re: frith]
    #11497422 - 11/21/09 07:29 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

No problems with flac! I wish more music was shared using lossless format, let people downsample if they want


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Re: apple is a bunch of crooks [Re: tak]
    #11498023 - 11/21/09 10:50 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, nothing wrong with lossless formats in an of themselves.  But for use on a portable player, it's just a waste.  But to each his own...

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Re: apple is a bunch of crooks [Re: ChuangTzu]
    #11498709 - 11/21/09 01:02 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Most blind A/B tests Ive read about have people not being able to tell the difference between lossless and 320 kbps mp3.  If you have a really expensive set of speakers then yea I can dig it, but some ok headphones?  Eh

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