Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Mushroom-Hut Mono Tub Substrate   Myyco.com Isolated Cubensis Liquid Culture For Sale   MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
Invisibledog
straw dog

Registered: 06/20/02
Posts: 2,790
Loc: Route 66
cap and pin deterioration
    #1115448 - 12/05/02 08:34 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

It looks like this is my week for contaminations.  :frown:

The following are pics are of the PF strain on BRF cakes. A couple of days after the pins came on I noticed several odd looking pins, and now I have these deformed looking mushrooms and odd growths. Only a small part of each cake has so far been affected. The other areas have healthy looking fruit.







In the last picture it looks as though part of the cap has been eaten away. I read through the new contam FAQ and the closest thing I could find is some sort of mite. Has anyone else experienced anything similar to this? What action(s) did you take?   


--------------------


Fascism (fash'izem) n. A governmental system marked by a centralized dictatorship, stringent socioeconomic controls, and often belligerent nationalism. see also: the Bush Administration.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Anonymous

Re: cap and pin deterioration [Re: dog]
    #1115452 - 12/05/02 08:37 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Looks like you got some bad genetics maybe.

That last one isnt contam, its mutated. Dunno about the odd growth thing tho. Guess thats mutation too? Maybe the environment or something.. couldnt tell ya. Good luck.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibledog
straw dog

Registered: 06/20/02
Posts: 2,790
Loc: Route 66
Re: cap and pin deterioration [Re: ]
    #1115575 - 12/05/02 09:37 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Hey, you're right! After reading your reply I re-exained the cakes with a magnifying glass. The spots that I mistook for damage are actually gills growing on the tops of the caps. There are also pins growing upside down, growing inside out and a few have multiple caps.


--------------------


Fascism (fash'izem) n. A governmental system marked by a centralized dictatorship, stringent socioeconomic controls, and often belligerent nationalism. see also: the Bush Administration.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleDreaMaTrix
Shaman I am

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 02/11/02
Posts: 3,125
Loc: Falling into place
Re: cap and pin deterioration [Re: dog]
    #1117095 - 12/06/02 11:55 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

That is verticillium.



--------------------





"We are the one's we have been waiting for" - Hopi saying

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibledog
straw dog

Registered: 06/20/02
Posts: 2,790
Loc: Route 66
Re: cap and pin deterioration [Re: DreaMaTrix]
    #1119621 - 12/07/02 09:57 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

I did an extensive search and verticillium is exactly what these cakes have. It is not too advanced so I should be able to save them.  :smile:

Thanks DreaMaTrix.
 


--------------------


Fascism (fash'izem) n. A governmental system marked by a centralized dictatorship, stringent socioeconomic controls, and often belligerent nationalism. see also: the Bush Administration.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleDreaMaTrix
Shaman I am

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 02/11/02
Posts: 3,125
Loc: Falling into place
Re: cap and pin deterioration [Re: dog] * 1
    #1120222 - 12/07/02 04:23 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

You are welcome.
Verticillium is quite easy to distinguish, especially with the help of 'the mushroom cultivator" ~ Paul Stamets. Here is the entry:

316/The Mushroom Cultivator
Macroscopic appearance:
Slightly infected mushrooms characterized by brown colored spots or streaks on the basal or upper regions of the stem and on the caps of developing primordial. These
spots become grayish colored from spore production. Afflicted mushrooms often bend to toward the
side that is infected. If the mushrooms do develop at all, they are typically tilted to one side or the
other. Verticillium attacks developing fruitbodies?the more severely infected are grossly malformed, especially young primordia which are turned into sclerotia-like balls of amorphous whitish
mycelia. More mature but diseased mushrooms have a deformed pileus, sometimes with a ?hair
lip", and frequently with a downy grayish mycelium over the cap. The stem can be covered with a
downy mycelium and often vertically splits, roughly resembling a peeled banana. The cap becomes
disproportionately small relative to the fatter than normal stem. The overall texture of the mushroom
is dry and leathery.
When this mold attacks Psilocybe cubensis, there are several additional characters worthy of
note. Parasitized P. cubensis caps frequently become plane at an early stage. The stem becomes
swollen and hollow, narrowing radically towards the apex. Only in an extremely humid environment
does a downy mildew develop over the cap and stem surface. The "Verticillium spots'' so commonly reported by growers of Agaricus. a white mushroom, are more accurately called "Verticillium
streaks" on P. cubensis. a mushroom with a brownish cap and a whitish stem.

Good luck




--------------------





"We are the one's we have been waiting for" - Hopi saying

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibledog
straw dog

Registered: 06/20/02
Posts: 2,790
Loc: Route 66
Re: cap and pin deterioration [Re: DreaMaTrix]
    #1122756 - 12/08/02 07:29 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

My copy of TMC is on the way.

5 mushies for you!


--------------------


Fascism (fash'izem) n. A governmental system marked by a centralized dictatorship, stringent socioeconomic controls, and often belligerent nationalism. see also: the Bush Administration.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibledog
straw dog

Registered: 06/20/02
Posts: 2,790
Loc: Route 66
Re: cap and pin deterioration [Re: dog]
    #1145662 - 12/16/02 10:35 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Here is an update for anyone else who suffers an outbreak of verticillium. I cleaned the infected cakes of all pins etc. and after dunking them in water over night I gave them a 15 minute dip in a 150:1 water:bleach solution. All the cakes are now fruiting beautifully.  :laugh: 


--------------------


Fascism (fash'izem) n. A governmental system marked by a centralized dictatorship, stringent socioeconomic controls, and often belligerent nationalism. see also: the Bush Administration.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinedumlovesyou
retired shroomer
 User Gallery

Registered: 05/02/01
Posts: 688
Loc: One dimension
Last seen: 1 year, 10 months
Re: cap and pin deterioration [Re: DreaMaTrix]
    #1262003 - 01/30/03 12:04 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

That is verticillium.

 




Ok. So is it bad to eat it? I have done so till now. :smile:


--------------------
I see trees of green, psylocibe mushrooms too
I see them bloom for me and you
And I think to myself what a wonderful world

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleDreaMaTrix
Shaman I am

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 02/11/02
Posts: 3,125
Loc: Falling into place
Re: cap and pin deterioration [Re: dumlovesyou]
    #1264138 - 01/31/03 02:09 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Ok. So is it bad to eat it?





No, according to TMC, verticillium is non-pathogenic :smile:



--------------------





"We are the one's we have been waiting for" - Hopi saying

Edited by MAIA (02/05/03 06:06 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMushyMay
Brian Eno is mypersonal God FNORD

Registered: 02/18/02
Posts: 423
Loc: ACT, Australia
Last seen: 6 years, 4 months
Re: cap and pin deterioration [Re: DreaMaTrix]
    #1279218 - 02/04/03 04:37 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

are there any contams that can cause caps to grow like that and be harmful if consumed.  I grew some maza's and there were a lot of mutant caps.  I ate them anyway and got hell fuckin sick.  I thought I was gonna die.
:confused: :frown:


--------------------
MushyMay is a fictional character, as a result any information provided by MushyMay is also fictitious.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleDreaMaTrix
Shaman I am

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 02/11/02
Posts: 3,125
Loc: Falling into place
Re: cap and pin deterioration [Re: DreaMaTrix]
    #1280522 - 02/05/03 04:45 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

No, according to MMGG, verticillium is non-pathogenic 




Oooops, I meant TMC, Stamets, if a mod could edit that for me, please :smile:




--------------------





"We are the one's we have been waiting for" - Hopi saying

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineISH
PsilocybianTranslationServices
 User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 03/02/02
Posts: 787
Loc: Planet Earth
Last seen: 4 years, 1 month
Re: cap and pin deterioration [Re: DreaMaTrix]
    #1293096 - 02/09/03 08:30 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Thise pictures are disturbing, it almost looks like it would hurt. hehehe

ISH


--------------------
Join The Shroomery Folding @ Home Team!



I think of going to the grave without having a psychedelic experience, like going to the grave without having sex. It means that you never figured out what it was all about. The mystery is in the body, and the way the body works itself into nature.
- Terence McKenna, Archaic Revival

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Mushroom-Hut Mono Tub Substrate   Myyco.com Isolated Cubensis Liquid Culture For Sale   MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* [Active] PE6 - White caps/pins forming (first time grower. please help!) MyShroomcLoud 815 5 05/07/21 11:11 AM
by Crackatoa
* what to do when pins clump and grow together? DJSwitch 1,455 7 03/15/03 09:45 AM
by DJSwitch
* Verticillium Taz_Khmer 3,894 1 12/12/02 06:54 PM
by torrent
* Will my pins start growing again?
( 1 2 all )
Nico1996 3,205 20 05/04/21 05:21 PM
by hazyhorse
* Verticillium? or just too dry? ihavefingers 1,039 4 04/20/04 12:53 PM
by MAIA
* !Bruising on caps! angryshroom 2,311 10 02/18/02 08:33 AM
by mycofile
* Verticillium Questions - Please HELP ! ! ! ! kneedragger 3,715 4 10/31/02 10:51 AM
by DreaMaTrix
* White film/fuzz on caps? (pics) archivist 10,553 6 03/27/19 01:35 AM
by Voodoojuju

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
5,581 topic views. 16 members, 100 guests and 90 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.024 seconds spending 0.008 seconds on 14 queries.