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Culture of woodloving mushrooms from wild spawn, a guide. 5
#11452169 - 11/14/09 05:04 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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this thread is for the development of a unified guide to the maintenance and propagation of woodloving Psilocybes and others.
i'll propose ideas, and attempt to draft a structure for the guide which you can use or not as you like.
i'll be editing it a lot, if you like the way i'm beginning.
if you don't like the way i'm doing it, let me know, but use this thread for development anyway.
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Edited by canid (11/14/09 05:22 AM)
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Re: Culture of woodloving mushrooms from wild spawn, a guide. [Re: canid]
#11452172 - 11/14/09 05:06 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Read this before harming a natural patch of woodloving Psilocybes: Culture of woodloving muhsrooms from wild spawn, the easy way.

So you have found a Patch of wood-loving Psilocybes. You do several things to help them along, and spread them to other locations with minimal damage and minimal work. You do not even need sterile culture procedures. This is convenient if the patch is small and has little substrate to work with, or if the patch is in a location likely to be molested by others less careful than yourselves, or if you are simply concerned there will not be enough to go around.
Propagation of new Patches
Wild Spawn
Wild spawn are pieces of colonized substrate such as twigs, wood chips and the butts of mushroom stipes. They should be collected with care to the parent patch, and in no greater numbers than needed. in theory, you should be able to establish a culture from one piece of wild spawn and use it to propagate a large volume of spawn material to start your new patch.
This wild spawn material should be handled in a clean manner and kept from drying out.
It can be transfered to damp corrugated cardboard and kept damp, in a cool dry environment. Outdoors in the shade will work well if the weather is cool.
Maintenance of existing Patches
body body body... body body body... body body body...
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Edited by canid (11/14/09 06:02 AM)
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Re: Culture of woodloving mushrooms from wild spawn, a guide. [Re: canid]
#11452214 - 11/14/09 05:41 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edited by Lanc3r117 (12/10/09 02:09 PM)
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Re: Culture of woodloving mushrooms from wild spawn, a guide. [Re: canid]
#11452259 - 11/14/09 06:04 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Good thread canid! 
I did a stem butt transfer this year with Psilocybe subaeruginosa onto corrugated cardboard. Here's some pics of some mycelium growing from the stem butts.

These were put into a container and wood chips were added. These pics were taken a few months ago and I now have a container full of healthy mycelium ready to be spawned to a larger container.
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Re: Culture of woodloving mushrooms from wild spawn, a guide. [Re: canid]
#11452262 - 11/14/09 06:04 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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of course, this should probably go to cultivation, but we need an obvious reference, so that people know where to find it, and know to link to it when appropriate.
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Re: Culture of woodloving mushrooms from wild spawn, a guide. [Re: canid]
#11452281 - 11/14/09 06:15 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, in the strict sense this belongs in the cultivation forums. However, I think that this is a subject that most Psilocybe hunters have thought about in the past and so I don't think it's inappropriate to have it here. Maybe it'll get moved to the FAQ in the future and just referenced from here, but for now it belongs here.
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Re: Culture of woodloving mushrooms from wild spawn, a guide. [Re: karode13]
#11452311 - 11/14/09 06:28 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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sweet. we'll want another one at least of mycellia growing from cardboard onto woodchips.
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Re: Culture of woodloving mushrooms from wild spawn, a guide. [Re: canid]
#11452625 - 11/14/09 08:47 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Is there a way to create the mycelium directly in the woods?
If I were to dig up a log that had mycelium growing and immediately transplanted it to another area would it survive?
If so, how long would you wait before you treated it with spores?
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Re: Culture of woodloving mushrooms from wild spawn, a guide. [Re: northgahunt]
#11452681 - 11/14/09 09:05 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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What if you pulled up a mushroom with some hyphae on the bottom?
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Re: Culture of woodloving mushrooms from wild spawn, a guide. [Re: northgahunt]
#11452685 - 11/14/09 09:05 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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just what ive been searching for!!haha i was raking my brain in the cult forums all morning. what no body every stated is: what is the optimun temp for growing mycelium?? i cant find that anywhere. I have inmy garage,but its geting below freezing outside at night.should i bring inside the house? should it stay there?all i ever find is fruiting temps.
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Re: Culture of woodloving mushrooms from wild spawn, a guide. [Re: northgahunt]
#11452687 - 11/14/09 09:06 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
northgahunt said: Is there a way to create the mycelium directly in the woods?
If I were to dig up a log that had mycelium growing and immediately transplanted it to another area would it survive?
If so, how long would you wait before you treated it with spores?
If you transplanted mycelium then you dont need to mess with spores.
I follow dirt roads where power company's chip up the trees they cut. They just send the chips into a pile a couple feet into the woods. I have transplanted gyms and caerulipes just from stem butts.
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Re: Culture of woodloving mushrooms from wild spawn, a guide. [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#11452713 - 11/14/09 09:15 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
psylosymonreturns said: what is the optimun temp for growing mycelium?? i cant find that anywhere. I have inmy garage,but its geting below freezing outside at night.should i bring inside the house? should it stay there?all i ever find is fruiting temps.
Anything between 20°C and 25°C is ideal for mycelial growth. It happens between spring and summer.
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Re: Culture of woodloving mushrooms from wild spawn, a guide. [Re: canid]
#11452721 - 11/14/09 09:16 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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I was hunting in a public garden once and saw a cluster of woodlover psilocybes stemming from a small cut-up piece of MDF (medium-density fibreboard). The patch had a party mix of all sorts of woodchips, soft and hard. What surprised me was the MDF piece was carpeted with thick layer of mycelium and the other party woodchips were fused to it. It was a clump of hardcore mycelium infused woodchips! Tearing off the other woodchips proved to be a challenge. I also noticed there were more psilocybes growing in the area but they fruited in solitude, finding no MDF beneath them.
From my observation MDF seems to work quite nicely in a outdoor environment. Why aren't people using it as a possible substrate or as an intermediate transfer substrate, or just plain mixing it in with the patch?
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Re: Culture of woodloving mushrooms from wild spawn, a guide. [Re: Lord Mayonnaise]
#11452771 - 11/14/09 09:28 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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thank you very much german kahuna. thats what i needed.
going to be experimenting with an invasive bamboo species on some instead of wood chips. which i have found cyans growing in before. i have never seen anyone trying it so what the hell.my whole back yard is full of it .
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Re: Culture of woodloving mushrooms from wild spawn, a guide. [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#11452779 - 11/14/09 09:30 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's quite interesting. You know that bamboo is a grass species, do you?
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Re: Culture of woodloving mushrooms from wild spawn, a guide. [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#11452781 - 11/14/09 09:32 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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nice, i'm planning to work with 'boo and oysters soon.
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Re: Culture of woodloving mushrooms from wild spawn, a guide. [Re: northgahunt]
#11452789 - 11/14/09 09:34 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
northgahunt said: Is there a way to create the mycelium directly in the woods?
If I were to dig up a log that had mycelium growing and immediately transplanted it to another area would it survive?
If so, how long would you wait before you treated it with spores?
yes, you can take colonized pieces of wood and transplant them. they do better if you use them to grow larger amounts of wood-chip spawn, and use that in turn to spawn your new locations.
the point being to minimize the amount of substrate disturbed [e.g. only a couple of pieces] and maximize the amount of material cultured to spawn the new patch, and all with a simple approach that doesn't require sterile culture.
i don't know what you mean about treating it with spores. there is no treating of anything with spores.
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Re: Culture of woodloving mushrooms from wild spawn, a guide. [Re: canid]
#11452807 - 11/14/09 09:39 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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haha duh.ya i guess bamboo would be considered a grass eh!? but the stalks are quite woody. you dont think it would work?
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Re: Culture of woodloving mushrooms from wild spawn, a guide. [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#11452822 - 11/14/09 09:43 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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i do.
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Re: Culture of woodloving mushrooms from wild spawn, a guide. [Re: canid]
#11452849 - 11/14/09 09:49 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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good. i will give it a go.i'll let you know how it works.
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