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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Magical Police Force [Re: Coheed88]
    #11470960 - 11/16/09 11:00 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I don't belive in victims, but I have been in situations that would fall under the typical social norm of being a victim. And I have been in situations of being wronged energetically or literally cursed by someone else with magic. I know I created this situation with the person, it was their choice to harm, it was my choice to be harmed.
I believe in creators of situations. If you follow the energy deep enough you will see that victims and hero's, and aggressors are unneccessary, and none are the truth.
I don't believe that anyone deserves suffering, I do believe that they create it on some level to learn from.
And karma would carry itself out with or without human interference, it's not a system dependent on people. There are many ways to find balance, just like there are many ways to find unbalance.
I think a magical police force would be a limiting thing to the practitioners of magic and to the world and further more I think it would have it's own karma that would just be down right heavy. Magic is something limitless(or it should be) that can only be comprehended so much... and it would just be another pathetic human attempt to control something that is beyond controlling.
The ego would come to be to much a part of it and it would fail in it's purpose. Those skilled enough would police the police force, essentially continuing the cycle of karma forever. Much of the magic police system that you seek is already in place by karma, if you just look.
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Re: Magical Police Force [Re: SittingBull]
    #11471969 - 11/17/09 03:50 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

elves!


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Re: Magical Police Force [Re: deCypher]
    #11472142 - 11/17/09 05:34 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I think what is being said is that the 'Guardians' (beings operating with power from higher densities, that of 6th, 7th and 8th) who have placed the quarantine on Earth are making a compromise between the free will of the Orion group and the third density inhabitants of Earth (us).

In order for this compromise to be made, the Orion group is allowed random passage into our reality to propagate their manipulation or whatever it is they may be doing. Yet, human beings as a whole are still rid of the vast majority of manipulation from these beings.

Therefore, if the magical police force were to be in accord with the law of free will, they would need to make a similiar compromise. They would offer a challenge to evil doers while understanding they cannot stop them all.


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Re: Magical Police Force [Re: deCypher]
    #11473418 - 11/17/09 12:08 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

What if there is an individual out there that can easliy overpower this Magical Police Force?


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Re: Magical Police Force [Re: Poid]
    #11473736 - 11/17/09 01:12 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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c0sm0nautt said:
Therefore, if the magical police force were to be in accord with the law of free will, they would need to make a similiar compromise. They would offer a challenge to evil doers while understanding they cannot stop them all.




Sounds good to me.  No system is perfect.  :thumbup:

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What if there is an individual out there that can easliy overpower this Magical Police Force?




Then we're all fucked once his or her reign of tyranny commences.  :lol:


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Re: Magical Police Force [Re: deCypher]
    #11473824 - 11/17/09 01:27 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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What if there is an individual out there that can easliy overpower this Magical Police Force?




Then we're all fucked once his or her reign of tyranny commences.  :lol:


Who says s/he will be tyrannical? It is possible s/he would like to join this police force and help get rid of all the evil. :hellfire:


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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Re: Magical Police Force [Re: Poid]
    #11473986 - 11/17/09 01:48 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

How would the individual be more powerful than the police force if the individual is now part of that police force?  :tongue:

At any rate I think it's more likely that power leads to corruption unless the individual is somehow subjected to a system of checks and balances.


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Re: Magical Police Force [Re: deCypher]
    #11474023 - 11/17/09 01:53 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not too familiar with specific agendas of orders, but I always got the impression the Order of Sons and Daughters of Light (OSDL) acted in that way. I've also seen a Zhedhi Order on the net, which seems to act even more in the way your discussing, including building themselves physically in order to be prepared for combat of any kind. This is something that can easily be overlooked, after all, if you get "found out" they could just shoot you with a gun or whatever other conventional means of death they choose to employ. 

It seems to me this "Police Force" would be close to the Jedi's of Star Wars. The police force would have to be intimately connected with the interconnting web of life, or "the force" as the Jedi's say. This would prevent corruption of the order and allow the order to find out the baddies.

If it's true that the "good" is so many times stronger than the "bad" the best thing would be to have the group develop themselves and project that energy onto the universe, as well as encouraging others to build themselves up. This could work in a way that would disarm the bad guys in a subtle way, such as making them doubt their cause.


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Re: Magical Police Force [Re: fazdazzle]
    #11474061 - 11/17/09 01:57 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm not too familiar with specific agendas of orders, but I always got the impression the Order of Sons and Daughters of Light (OSDL) acted in that way. I've also seen a Zhedhi Order on the net, which seems to act even more in the way your discussing, including building themselves physically in order to be prepared for combat of any kind. This is something that can easily be overlooked, after all, if you get "found out" they could just shoot you with a gun or whatever other conventional means of death they choose to employ.




Awesome, thanks for being the first one to actually answer my question in the OP!  And I agree that the Jedi would be the epitome of what I'm talking about.  Do you have any links for the OSDL and/or Zhedhi Order?


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Re: Magical Police Force [Re: deCypher]
    #11474200 - 11/17/09 02:18 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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How would the individual be more powerful than the police force if the individual is now part of that police force?  :tongue:


He could be like Batman! :wink:



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At any rate I think it's more likely that power leads to corruption unless the individual is somehow subjected to a system of checks and balances.


Very true; the existence of such an individual like this would have to be at least somewhat unlikely.


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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Re: Magical Police Force [Re: jivJaN]
    #11474905 - 11/17/09 04:22 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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what about bar fights ?
what do you think would happen when 10 guys drunk as hell get into a fiery argument ?
to me it looks like wild wild west all over again lol




Well....personally, I've never met a single CCW licensee who would stoop to a bar fight (and I know lots). It's just not in 'em. They'd walk before being brought down to that level.

And, haven't you heard? Texas is still the wild, wild West! :lol:


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Re: Magical Police Force [Re: deCypher]
    #11508110 - 11/22/09 11:26 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry for getting back to you so late, but to answer your question: no, unfortunately. You would be best off scouring the internet.


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Re: Magical Police Force [Re: deCypher]
    #11815037 - 01/12/10 01:41 PM (14 years, 18 days ago)

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It is therefore quite likely that there exist black magicians or brujos who employ magick to advance their own interests before the interests of other people: the manifestation of power without compassion.  Since it is clear that the majority of us do not wish to have our free will violated by such transgressors, it would make sense if the few of us wishing to serve the whole and gifted with the power to perform magick would band together to track down power-hungry metaphysical murderers, wanton curse-throwers, demon-possessed witches, remorseless energy vampires, etcetera to stop their acts of terror on an unsuspecting public.


If magick is actually real, and there are malevolent individuals like this, then they should be put to death, IMO.


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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