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Re: Overpopulation and Philosophy (of the Future) [Re: Lakefingers]
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Overpopulation and unsanitary conditions will lead to new epidemics.

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Re: Overpopulation and Philosophy (of the Future) [Re: Jaegar]
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Necessarily?


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Overpopulation and Philosophy (of the Future) [Re: Poid]
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Not necessarily. There is much debate on the link between population density and epidemics.

To me it sounds more then plausible having people living close together would be a paradise for viruses and diseases.


Maybe with the use of vaccines this won't be as much of a problem.:syringe:

Edited by Jaegar (11/13/09 05:38 PM)

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Re: Overpopulation and Philosophy (of the Future) [Re: Jaegar]
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Jaegar said:
Maybe with the use of vaccines this won't be a problem.:syringe:


Or maybe people could just carry sanitary wipes with them more often. :shrug:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Overpopulation and Philosophy (of the Future) [Re: Jaegar]
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What about air born contagions?

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Re: Overpopulation and Philosophy (of the Future) [Re: Jaegar]
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Lysol.


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Overpopulation and Philosophy (of the Future) [Re: Poid]
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Lysol could work. But I doubt if for instance you commute by train people are going to be happy with you spraying Lysol everywhere.:tongue:

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Re: Overpopulation and Philosophy (of the Future) [Re: Jaegar]
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If the problem becomes that serious, then I suppose people would have to wear those doctor masks. :smirk:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Overpopulation and Philosophy (of the Future) [Re: Poid]
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You would need a specially designed filtered mask, ordinary masks do not offer immunity.


Could turn it into a new fashion, how cool would you look in one of these.

Edited by Jaegar (11/13/09 08:05 PM)

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Re: Overpopulation and Philosophy (of the Future) [Re: Jaegar]
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It would depend on precisely what the problem is, and also on how severe it is.


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Overpopulation and Philosophy (of the Future) *DELETED* [Re: Lakefingers]
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Re: Overpopulation and Philosophy (of the Future) [Re: Lakefingers]
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I'm not very sure I agree. Early humans it now seems from evidence gathered were big time wasters and polluters. They did not have however the numbers or technology to overwhelm the ability of nature to restore itself from the effects of their actions.

But in the end this is not the issue for me. I'm sure we can create a grid we can all live on so just about every usable inch has a human or a plowed field on it. There need be no more or very few wild places with other species going about the business of life as we do. We and a few chosen creatures will be safe. But it's not for me and I'm going to be very glad to be gone.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Overpopulation and Philosophy (of the Future) *DELETED* [Re: Icelander]
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Re: Overpopulation and Philosophy (of the Future) [Re: Lakefingers]
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anarchy is the only solution

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Re: Overpopulation and Philosophy (of the Future) [Re: Conaman12]
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anarchy is just a diversion of the problem to something that cannot be isolated with a concept like 'government'. There is never true anarchy, humans always create laws. There is merely different extents to how they enforce the laws, how large their jurisdiction is, and how much people know about the laws and try to follow them.

in other words, anarchy is nothing.. it is merely breaking up government into little entities known as 'leaders' or 'persuasive people' who might try to enforce their opinions in any way they like


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Re: Overpopulation and Philosophy (of the Future) [Re: Lakefingers]
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Lakefingers said:
Easy-to-ready article with another perspective:

John Feffer: Overpopulation - Overhyped

"More pertinent than how we procreate is how we farm: whether we use the land for biofuels, whether we depend on industrial agriculture, whether we cut down the rainforests, whether we devote large portions of land and grain production for livestock. If we don't change the way we farm, we will still reach our approaching limits � of energy, land, and carbon emissions � at current or even lower population levels. Our systems of production are set up in a way to produce this crisis, regardless of whether there are 6 billion people or 3 billion people who need to eat. Of course, with fewer people, the onset of the crisis wouldn't be as rapid. But if we don't change the systems, the crisis will come nevertheless. Overpopulation, in other words, is an aggravating factor, not a driving factor."

Scary :shocked:

Read the article here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-feffer/overpopulation-overhyped_b_119885.html



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Re: Overpopulation and Philosophy (of the Future) [Re: Conaman12]
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Conaman12 said:
anarchy is the only solution



Anarchy, just like world peace, is impossible. :satansmoking:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Overpopulation and Philosophy (of the Future) [Re: Poid]
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Poid said:
Conaman12 said:
anarchy is the only solution



Anarchy, just like world peace, is impossible. :satansmoking:




They are simply ideas set as the extreme reference points

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Re: Overpopulation and Philosophy (of the Future) [Re: Germican]
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Impossible ideas. :flyingpig:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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