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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1109137 - 12/04/02 05:15 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Wow! Great info guys! And those pics make it very clear that this mushroom is not ps.caerulipes. Those pics indicate a mushroom with classic woodloving psilocybe characteristics, and this mushroom does not have those. Its actually cultivated from an original isolate labelled Ps.Mexicanna from Workman to a friend.
When i isolated the mycelia i found it to be very different to any pictures i could find of mexicanna mycelia. Also no sclerotia formation and the fruits look like a weird psilocybe.
It has purple/brown spores and is a definate psilocybe of some description, but it reminds me of pictures in Stamets of caerulipes on page 104, ps.silvatica on page 146 and samuiensis on page 140.
Ive only got the one print so far, but ive got more in culture.


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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1109553 - 12/04/02 11:48 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

For good info, P. silvatica does not really resemble a liberty cap as it lacks a definate nipple similar to ones found on liberty caps and it is quite diffenet in habitat than P. mexicana which grows in manured soil while P. silvatica is a wood loving species.

and the silvaticas are moe conical than cone shaped like the mexicanas and samuiensis.

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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1113342 - 12/05/02 12:35 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

wow.. those look alot like the weillis we picked all fall
I could never tell the diff. you guys know your shit. :grin:


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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1113916 - 12/05/02 03:20 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1116423 - 12/06/02 08:19 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah this fruited well off rye grass seed and ive got no idea what it is to be honest. Did stain very slightly blue - no bioassay yet as i havent been well in the tummy for the last few days...
Maybe someone would like to examine a gill fragment?? :smile:


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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1118150 - 12/06/02 07:39 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Reville actually examined these a while ago and got these spore measurements: 11.02-15.05 by 6.7-8.8.
These seem a lot larger than the spore measurements listed in Stamets 1996.


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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1118298 - 12/06/02 08:35 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Hi, Tomorrow I will email your image to guzman and send him the spore measurements for he shrooms. Maybe he has an idea of what they might be.

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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1118325 - 12/06/02 08:52 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks MJ Id appreciate that! Better not send any of my stuff on aussie Psilocybes until afterwards. I would appreciate his input regarding Buchanan's work and my own findings of synonymy between Ps.Australiana and Subaeruginosa (with cleland's originals displaying hyaline and not brown pluerocystidia) - maybe a link to some of my posts on the topic. Id love to hear some feedback from him on that as well.


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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1133721 - 12/11/02 10:53 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

More pics that might help:




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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1136876 - 12/12/02 11:35 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes? [Re: ]
    #1141604 - 12/14/02 07:41 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)


Maybe Liniformans??


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Re: Psilocybe Caerulipes? [Re: ]
    #1141834 - 12/14/02 10:49 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

has it accured to you that you might have a new species ?
i think you should call it deaniemeanie :grin: 


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    #1142572 - 12/15/02 09:05 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

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