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DMT extraction Vs. Making Ayahuasca
    #11415306 - 11/09/09 01:08 AM (8 years, 16 days ago)

Well, I'm doing a DMT extraction as we speak and I'm [hopefully] going to get enough dimitri to last me at least a year.

I have about 200 grams of MHRB powder left, and I was wondering if making ayahuasca is anywhere near as difficult as a DMT extraction (not saying the extraction is hard, either)?

Read a few posts about the process, it just seems like there is much less room for error with that and I'm all about safety. I spent over 2 hours adding the NaOH to the water because I did it in such small increments to minimize anything going wrong.


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Re: DMT extraction Vs. Making Ayahuasca [Re: Angel_Above]
    #11415756 - 11/09/09 02:20 AM (8 years, 16 days ago)

Remember, if you want to keep DMT potent for a long period of time, keep it in a small, air-tight container. Being small will reduce the amount of oxygen that ends up in the container after opening, thus reducing the oxidation a slight bit over a long time. Air-tight so there is as little as possible air exchange. Trust me, the first time you smoke oxidized DMT, you will do everything you can to avoid it next time! :wink:

You're wise being careful with NaOH. I always wear goggles to avoid the dreaded NaOH in the eye horror story. You can never be too cautious with NaOH. Never.

Ayahuasca preparation is a different ballgame. It's getting the amounts right, getting to temperature right so nothing is destroyed, and it's getting your mind right. Aya can truly bring you through life and death to rebirth and every mystery of the universe in between. There is no good trip / bad trip dynamic. It is a lesson, and it will teach you good and evil, up and down, heaven and hell, and every detail between. You will come out of it reborn.

Most importantly, never take Aya for fun. It will remind you of its purpose. :smile:


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Re: DMT extraction Vs. Making Ayahuasca [Re: Angel_Above]
    #11416457 - 11/09/09 04:53 AM (8 years, 16 days ago)

Well I have never successfully brewed ayahuasca...
My attempts at that and mimosahuasca failed. I just didn't seem to get enough of the spice into the brew, it seems.

I can't say I have ever failed at extraction, though.
I think my chemistry skill is much greater than my brewing skill. LOL!

But I have consumed both, and they're not quite comparable in the sense.
Ayahuasca lasting for quite some time and usually have something come out of it. It will take you places and has something to say.
Smoking DMT, though. As well all know, the short duration. The whole experience and visuals being quite different. More like a psychadelic than a "medicine".

But I have only consumed Aya once.
Smoked DMT a handful of times.
My comparison would be small to probably someone elses experiences.

That's just my piece of info.


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Re: DMT extraction Vs. Making Ayahuasca [Re: ThePharmahuasquero]
    #11417801 - 11/09/09 12:27 PM (8 years, 16 days ago)

I know there is hardly a comparison with the two, but after my one and only smoked DMT experience, I know this plant has so much to teach me.

Smoked DMT is so soothing... My mind was racing and I kept thinking I was having a bad time because I couldn't control my thoughts, but then something was comforting me the entire time. I attribute this to my spirit guides, although you all may feel different.

And I never do drugs for fun. Ok, maybe weed once in a while :laugh:, but I respect the hell out of these plants because of the few times I fought them off and they kicked the shit out of my mind.

I remember on 1.4 grams of shrooms, lemon tekked, I made the dumb mistake to say (in my head) "Shrooms aren't shit. They can't control me, I'm in control" which ended in a 4 hour mind-fuck where I thought I was homosexual for my whole life and up until that moment I was living a lie (I'm COMPLETELY hetero, it was just an uber mind fuck).

Is aya an easy solo experience? When I breakthrough on entheogens I usually like being alone. The first time I tried salvia I was alone, and both times I brokethrough I was alone. I think it makes the transition easier, plus there's no boneheads asking how it is when you're in LaLa Land.

And I don't understand why you claim N,N DMT to be a "psychedelic" and the ayahuasca to be the teacher. I think all drugs in their own respects are great teachers. To each his own I suppose.

I hate the word psychedelic because of the negative stigma brought on by the war on drugs... I only use entheogen now :smile:


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