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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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If All Matter Is Just Condensed Vibrating Energy...
    #11414542 - 11/08/09 09:39 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

As suggested by Quantum physics, Eastern Philosophy, and the Psychedelic Experience...In other words, reality is just a creation of the perceiver...


Then why can't I do ANYTHING or CREATE anything I want?

  This one keeps pissing me off.


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Re: If All Matter Is Just Condensed Vibrating Energy... [Re: JackofSpades]
    #11414571 - 11/08/09 09:42 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Maybe you don't want it badly enough. Or maybe too much. How that for Zen?


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Re: If All Matter Is Just Condensed Vibrating Energy... [Re: JackofSpades]
    #11414574 - 11/08/09 09:43 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

You can.  :yarly:

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Re: If All Matter Is Just Condensed Vibrating Energy... [Re: Doc_T]
    #11414592 - 11/08/09 09:45 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

hmm...


yeah...


I suppose if all is consciousness then the thing that keeps me from acting freely is self-consciousness....which is how the ego is formed anyway I guess.


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Re: If All Matter Is Just Condensed Vibrating Energy... [Re: JackofSpades]
    #11414703 - 11/08/09 09:58 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

You gotta start off small and build your way up, I think. So far I'm only able to see colors when I want with my eyes closed, but when I did acid I made my cat purple from this practice.

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Re: If All Matter Is Just Condensed Vibrating Energy... [Re: surferdude66066]
    #11414704 - 11/08/09 09:58 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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You can.  :yarly:



:orly:


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Re: If All Matter Is Just Condensed Vibrating Energy... [Re: Troll Bot]
    #11414739 - 11/08/09 10:02 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

yeah like this is what I mean, there is just consciousness experiencing itself subjectively....


we should be bound to no limits other than our own will...how do you build up the ability to create and control perception since there is ONLY perception (consciousness)


there has to be secret to this reality. I mean, plato's allegory of the cave suggests this as well...


The world of ideas is far more real...but how to do this?


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Re: If All Matter Is Just Condensed Vibrating Energy... [Re: JackofSpades]
    #11414860 - 11/08/09 10:17 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

youtube:
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Re: If All Matter Is Just Condensed Vibrating Energy... [Re: JackofSpades]
    #11419645 - 11/09/09 03:09 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

JackofSpades said:
As suggested by Quantum physics, Eastern Philosophy, and the Psychedelic Experience...In other words, reality is just a creation of the perceiver...


Then why can't I do ANYTHING or CREATE anything I want?

  This one keeps pissing me off.




It is because your chakras arent properly aligned.


















Haha, Just kidding, We all know that is mostly just BS to sell books and seminars.

I dont know why exactly......

But, it does make me wonder if "reality is just the creation of the perciever" is a true theory or not.


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^^^ haha what a bummer, shad0w. All this talk about dying. :smile:
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And so, I feel your intolerance and phobia towards rectal administration of psychedelics is a violation of the music of the spheres :rolleyes:[/quote]

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I could have sworn I seen a thread about a guy saying his dog killed the neighbors chickens earlier....[/quote]

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Re: If All Matter Is Just Condensed Vibrating Energy... [Re: JackofSpades]
    #11419744 - 11/09/09 03:21 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

You can't base your philosophy on bill hicks quotes.


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Re: If All Matter Is Just Condensed Vibrating Energy... [Re: JackofSpades]
    #11419815 - 11/09/09 03:32 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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there has to be secret to this reality. I mean, plato's allegory of the cave suggests this as well...





That is not what the cave parable suggests at all. It says nothing about manipulating matter with your mind.

It says there is more to this reality than we realize, yes. But not that we have control over it.

Even if matter is energy condensed to a slow vibration, again that suggests nothing of controlling it.

What your talking about is some matrix shit.

There is no spoon.


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Re: If All Matter Is Just Condensed Vibrating Energy... [Re: JackofSpades]
    #11419821 - 11/09/09 03:32 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Because your mind and body are only 100-200lbs of matter.  So the energy locked up in the matter that makes up your house.....is more than you.  Conscious or not :smile:

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Re: If All Matter Is Just Condensed Vibrating Energy... [Re: JackofSpades]
    #11419859 - 11/09/09 03:37 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

JackofSpades said:
As suggested by Quantum physics, Eastern Philosophy, and the Psychedelic Experience...In other words, reality is just a creation of the perceiver...


Then why can't I do ANYTHING or CREATE anything I want?

  This one keeps pissing me off.



cuz u are using the word "Creation" in a different sense.

Everyone is given roughly the same external stimulation and it is up to you to create a reality based on that. it's just talking about perception. it doesnt mean you can just manipulate anything.


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Re: If All Matter Is Just Condensed Vibrating Energy... [Re: learningtofly]
    #11419874 - 11/09/09 03:39 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Takes practice

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Re: If All Matter Is Just Condensed Vibrating Energy... [Re: TiN]
    #11419881 - 11/09/09 03:39 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Not saying I can though.

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Re: If All Matter Is Just Condensed Vibrating Energy... [Re: JackofSpades]
    #11419902 - 11/09/09 03:43 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

JackofSpades said:
As suggested by Quantum physics, Eastern Philosophy, and the Psychedelic Experience...In other words, reality is just a creation of the perceiver...


Then why can't I do ANYTHING or CREATE anything I want?

  This one keeps pissing me off.



I think that's a misinterpretation of quantum mechanics. Just because observers may be required to collapse the wave function on a micro scale does not mean that observers have ultimate power over reality. Also, no one is really certain whether or not only conscious beings can be observers, and the very definition of "observer" is tricky.


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Re: If All Matter Is Just Condensed Vibrating Energy... [Re: NetDiver]
    #11419920 - 11/09/09 03:46 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

i want a purple cat...


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[quote]Oweyervishice said:
[quote]Icelander said:
What is at the bottom of it?[/quote]

Death anxiety? :flirt:[/quote]

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Re: If All Matter Is Just Condensed Vibrating Energy... [Re: nootropic]
    #11420023 - 11/09/09 04:03 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I think it's because we haven't realized yet that we are capable of such things.  I mean, we don't even use 10% of our brains, so I guess controlling and creating anything we want is somewhere further.

The day we'll use 100% of our brains, that's when shit will happen.


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Re: If All Matter Is Just Condensed Vibrating Energy... [Re: ManyAk]
    #11420033 - 11/09/09 04:05 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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  I mean, we don't even use 10% of our brains,




:facepalm: we use 100% of our brains that 10% thing is a bullshit myth


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Re: If All Matter Is Just Condensed Vibrating Energy... [Re: learningtofly]
    #11420059 - 11/09/09 04:09 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

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  I mean, we don't even use 10% of our brains,




:facepalm: we use 100% of our brains that 10% thing is a bullshit myth




I disagree. Such thing would mean that the GABADAZILLIONS of humans that will come after us won't be even slightly more intelligent than us?

Now that is a bullshit myth.


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