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So is Khat illegal or legal in the US?
    #11411581 - 11/08/09 04:29 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

:shrug: im just curious about growing it and stuff?? or is it illegal?


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Re: So is Khat illegal or legal in the US? [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11411588 - 11/08/09 04:30 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

illegal


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Re: So is Khat illegal or legal in the US? [Re: fireshaman]
    #11411595 - 11/08/09 04:31 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

boo...i atleast was hoping the plant was legal.. but thats a no no


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    #11411597 - 11/08/09 04:32 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: So is Khat illegal or legal in the US? [Re: scottandrew]
    #11411603 - 11/08/09 04:33 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

seeds legal


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Re: So is Khat illegal or legal in the US? [Re: scottandrew]
    #11411611 - 11/08/09 04:34 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

so pretty much khat is Cathinone to them?? even though Khat is not specifically listed in any schedule in the United States.


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Re: So is Khat illegal or legal in the US? [Re: fireshaman]
    #11411613 - 11/08/09 04:34 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

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seeds legal




:thumbup: did not know that. well would growing it than become illegal??


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Re: So is Khat illegal or legal in the US? [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11411688 - 11/08/09 04:47 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

seeds do not contain the illegal substance


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Re: So is Khat illegal or legal in the US? [Re: fireshaman]
    #11411708 - 11/08/09 04:51 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

well once sprouted...:smirk:

or is the process of growing it legal? im confused??


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Re: So is Khat illegal or legal in the US? [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11411780 - 11/08/09 05:03 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Growing Khat is as illegal as growing shrooms. Once you've planted it, you're expressing obvious intent to grow, which is manufacture of both  schedule I (cathinone) and schedule IV (cathine) substances.


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Re: So is Khat illegal or legal in the US? [Re: NetDiver]
    #11412177 - 11/08/09 06:08 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

i guess thats a no no for growin :frown:  :evil:


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Re: So is Khat illegal or legal in the US? [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11412191 - 11/08/09 06:10 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

grow it. if ppl can grow weed shrooms peyote and watever else in the usa then might as well grow khat. u can find it on the streets if u know where to look although its pretty damn rare.


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Re: So is Khat illegal or legal in the US? [Re: whatdidusay]
    #11412196 - 11/08/09 06:11 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

my thought was/is who the hell is gonna notice what it is anyway?


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Re: So is Khat illegal or legal in the US? [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11412199 - 11/08/09 06:11 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, it's illegal, but who's going to know? How many people in your city do you think would recognize a khat plant? And of those, how many do you think are law enforcement officials?

Hell, I wouldn't even recognize a khat plant.


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Re: So is Khat illegal or legal in the US? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #11412204 - 11/08/09 06:12 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

what i was just saying...whod recognize it??:shrug:


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Re: So is Khat illegal or legal in the US? [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11412235 - 11/08/09 06:16 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

See DEA's 2002 Briefing on Khat for more information on their view of khat. In two entries in the Federal Register, the DEA mentions khat and their view of its legal status, but in the scheduling of cathine and cathinone, the DEA chose both times not to list the plant itself and thus the plant remains in a legal grey area.

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Re: So is Khat illegal or legal in the US? [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11412250 - 11/08/09 06:18 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

No one would even know what it is. Unless you regularly have DEA people coming to your house or watever i think your fine. if ur trully worried grow it outdoors somewhere away from civilzation. like how ppl grow weed outdoors. ppl are going to walk right pass it unless you make it obvious some1 planted it there for some purpose. go for it!


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Re: So is Khat illegal or legal in the US? [Re: whatdidusay]
    #11412301 - 11/08/09 06:26 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

yea..honestly who the hell will know what that plant is???

guerrilla style haa. i dont think youll have to hide em that well though.


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Re: So is Khat illegal or legal in the US? [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11412380 - 11/08/09 06:39 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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in the scheduling of cathine and cathinone, the DEA chose both times not to list the plant itself and thus the plant remains in a legal grey area.



Not true. The CSA is worded such that any material containing detectable amounts of a controlled substance is legally considered as being that substance.

They don't need to specifically schedule the plant, and recognize that scheduling specific plants rather than their constituent chemicals generally only weakens the legislation.


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Re: So is Khat illegal or legal in the US? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #11412392 - 11/08/09 06:40 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

ok just pasting what was on erowid.

how can you grow cacti and stuff than legally?


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