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OfflineDr. Seuss
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Mmm... DMT
    #11409114 - 11/08/09 03:43 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

I've been looking at the Lazy Man's Guide to Extracting DMT from MHRB as well as Nature Boy's tek. This is an interesting topic that covers a lot of chemistry I plan to study in the near future. I have no intention of actually going through with an extraction, (DMT sounds far too nuts) but I'm curious about how some of this works.

Would it be better to use powder MHRB? As long as the solution isn't shaken violently, powder shouldn't cause emulsion problems.

Does Ronsonol work, or does the process specifically need VM&P brand naphtha? VM&P naphtha it is!

What can be done to purify the product if turns out to be brownish or yellow? I read that n-heptane is useful.

Do you know of any good places to buy MHRB? My bad, scratch that one.

What are some good ways to separating naphtha from the rest of the solution other than just pouring? A turkey baster looks promising.

Recrystallization? Please explain the process.

Any other suggestions or advice is appreciated.


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Edited by Dr. Seuss (11/23/09 03:53 PM)


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Re: Mmm... DMT [Re: Dr. Seuss]
    #11409156 - 11/08/09 03:58 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Strictly from my experience.

I bought MHRB online, use lighter fluid naptha and lye from a hardware shop. The MHRB was already powdered. I got a white result my first time. I would assume the most critical step is when seperating layers. Dont let any gunk in your naptha for the freeze, you can get at it later.


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Re: Mmm... DMT [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #11409162 - 11/08/09 03:59 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

No sources!:kingcrankey:


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Re: Mmm... DMT [Re: Dr. Seuss]
    #11409234 - 11/08/09 04:25 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Dr. Seuss said:
I've been looking at the Lazy Man's Guide to Extracting DMT from MHRB, and I have a few questions for those who know their DMT.




I'll start by answering a question you didn't ask: Don't use lazyman's tek. Go with NatureBoy's or Nomans if you feel the need to follow a tek and want to go straight to base (it's really not necessary to follow any tek, it's an extremely easy extraction to freehand if you understand what you're doing)

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Would it be better to use ground MHRB? I feel a coffee grinder would do a better job than the potato masher used in this tek.




No, it's better to use shredded bark than powdered. With STB extractions, bark that's too finely powdered can cause emulsion problems (particularly referring to the pre-powdered stuff you can buy).

If by "ground" you mean using a coffee grinder, save yourself the trouble, MHRB will eat through your grinder more effectively than the grinder eats through the bark :lol:

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Does Ronsonol work, or do I specifically need VM&P brand naphtha?




Don't use ronsonol, it's usually dirty as all hell.

VM&P is not a brand (it stands for varnish-makers' and painters'), but yes, you want VM&P naphtha (or an equivalent solvent, like a low-boiling point petroleum ether fraction... usually it's just easier to pick up some naphtha)

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What can I do to purify my product if turns out to be brownish or yellow?



Recrystallize

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Also, do you know of any good places to buy MHRB? I've looked around, but I'd like to see what someone with experience has to say.




Someone with experience says no source discussion is allowed on the shroomery :smirk:


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Re: Mmm... DMT [Re: Entropymancer]
    #11409476 - 11/08/09 06:34 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Use the lazy tek with Naptha Zippo is clear, buy powdered MHRB or do it on yourself on a coffee grinder the crystals maybe will be white or yellow it depends on MHRB fats.


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Re: Mmm... DMT [Re: albien5]
    #11410840 - 11/08/09 02:03 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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Naptha Zippo is clear



Unless they've changed the formula in the last year and a half, you don't want to use zippo, it at least used to leave a residue when you evaporate.

Which I suppose is a step that the teks usually fail to mention: Before you start your extraction, try evaporating some of your naphtha to make sure it evaporates cleanly. If it leaves any residue behind, go out and buy another brand.

Also it's really not necessary for the bark to be that finely pulverized. If you're willing to let the NaOH/MHRB solution sit for a few hours (swirling ocassionally) before you add the first naphtha, then NaOH will do most of the pulverizing for you.


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Re: Mmm... DMT [Re: Dr. Seuss]
    #11410936 - 11/08/09 02:20 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Powder it as much as you can. It's okay to have some strands of bark left, but tear them up. I haven't had an emulsion problem from it. If you get the right PH you shouldn't have that problem.

V,M & P Naphtha is so easy to get. And cheap. That's way better to use.

Recrystallize with Bestine if your crystals are yellow hued. If you use the freeze precipitation, then most of the time the crystals come out pretty clean.

If you do this often.. I would suggest investing in a seperatory funnel. Or just draw it off with a tight tipped turkey baster. Or a pipette. I wouldn't risk pouring it at all.

Like the other said, don't use Lazy Man's tek. Search STB Tek on the forum. The one with the pictures would be better for you to follow.


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    #11411168 - 11/08/09 03:10 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Mmm... DMT [Re: scottandrew]
    #11414051 - 11/08/09 10:40 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Those are some gorgeous crystals you have there!


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    #11414136 - 11/08/09 10:50 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Mmm... DMT [Re: scottandrew]
    #11414301 - 11/08/09 11:11 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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    #11414419 - 11/08/09 11:23 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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