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The Mental Illness Defense
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Oh? You were crazy when you killed all those people? OK, then. You are free to go. If you were rational we would have to throw the book at you.


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Re: The Mental Illness Defense [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Crazy people go to crazy people places. Not free.

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Re: The Mental Illness Defense [Re: Ahimsa]
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Ahimsa said:
Crazy people go to crazy people places. Not free.



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Re: The Mental Illness Defense [Re: Ahimsa]
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Please don't break my rhythm when I am on a roll. :nonono:


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Re: The Mental Illness Defense [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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I wonder if you can use this for parking violations, and speeding?


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Re: The Mental Illness Defense [Re: elementswrath]
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elementswrath said:
Ahimsa said:
Crazy people go to crazy people places. Not free.






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Re: The Mental Illness Defense [Re: EternalCowabunga]
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You are missing the point of the post:FattyNoneck:


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If anything typed above is about me participating in illegal activities it is either a joke or a lie. <img src="https://files.shroomery.org/smileys/w0ahhhhmahnnn.gif" alt=":w0ahhhhmahnnn:" title=":w0ahhhhmahnnn:"/>

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Re: The Mental Illness Defense [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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It was the first thing that came to mind. :sorry:

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Re: The Mental Illness Defense [Re: Ahimsa]
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If you admit to being crazy when you posted, then I forgive you. :hug:


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Re: The Mental Illness Defense [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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:backflip: I'd rather go to the crazy people place instead...

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Re: The Mental Illness Defense [Re: Ahimsa]
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Off you go! :bye:


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Re: The Mental Illness Defense [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Oh? You were crazy when you killed all those people? OK, then. You are free to go. If you were rational we would have to throw the book at you.



rofl orgone u dont understand how pleading insanity works. it means that instead of going to jail you spend a significant amount of time in a mental institution.

The idea behind it is that at the time of the crime the person cannot understand the nature of wrongfulness of their actions.

Pleading insanity does NOT mean a lighter sentence.

Defendants who are judged not guilty by reason of insanity are typically committed to mental hospitals. If medical experts subsequently determine that they are not a danger to themselves or the community, they may be released.

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An insanity acquittal does not always lead to a lighter sentence for people committed to mental hospitals. In Virginia, for example, 1/4 of the 239 people confined to mental hospitals after asserting the insanity defense were only accused of misdemeanors. Thus, if they had been convicted, they would have served a jail time of one year or less. Instead, some of them serve much longer commitments in the hospital. A man named Leroy Turner has spent more than 13 years in Virginia's Central State Hospital after having been found not guilty by reason of insanity for the misdemeanor charge of breaking a window.



Plus it's used in less than 1% of cases.


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Re: The Mental Illness Defense [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Oh? You were crazy when you killed all those people? OK, then. You are free to go. If you were rational we would have to throw the book at you.



Free to go to a mental institution.:crazy2:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: The Mental Illness Defense [Re: Icelander]
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it seems that a lot of people don't understand pleading insanity does not mean if you are acquitted you get to go home. you get to spend a lot of time in a loony house


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Re: The Mental Illness Defense [Re: learningtofly]
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If I minigun an entire mall, then I might be deemed sane or is the act itself possibly a hint of something wrong in the attic?

:minigun:


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Re: The Mental Illness Defense [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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even barely knowing you, i'd say it wouldn't work for you.


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Re: The Mental Illness Defense [Re: learningtofly]
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it seems that a lot of people don't understand pleading insanity does not mean if you are acquitted you get to go home. you get to spend a lot of time in a loony house



I understand that Dan White got two years for the cold-blooded murder of Moscone and Milk in SF in 1978 because he was high on sugar and incapable of thinking clearly, the famed 'Twinkie Defense'.

Is that not a light sentence for breaking into a building with a handgun and shooting two people down?


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Re: The Mental Illness Defense [Re: Ahimsa]
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Ahimsa said:
:backflip: I'd rather go to the crazy people place instead...



I dont know that you would.

I've been institutionalized before, but have never been in prison.

All I can say is that mental hospitals are not exactly a day on the beach, and they like to give you anti-psychotics and benzodiazepines effectively lobotomizing you.

Does that sound like a way you would like to spend the rest of your life?


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Mr. Cypher said: "I just tell the girls how sexy I am and their panties melt."

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Re: The Mental Illness Defense [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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I understand that Dan White got two years for the cold-blooded murder of Moscone and Milk in SF in 1978 because he was high on sugar and incapable of thinking clearly, the famed 'Twinkie Defense'.



Our legal system at work.  Isn't it wonderful?

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Re: The Mental Illness Defense [Re: awesomebastard]
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i'm a schizophrenic

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Re: The Mental Illness Defense [Re: awesomebastard]
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All I can say is that mental hospitals are not exactly a day on the beach



Yeah, but you can smuggle in broads and booze for a late night party.


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Re: The Mental Illness Defense [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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:tongue:Oh ya I forgot.


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"Absolute certainty is a privilege of uneducated minds and fanatics." ~ C.J. Keyser



Mr. Cypher said: "I just tell the girls how sexy I am and their panties melt."

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Re: The Mental Illness Defense [Re: BothHands]
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BothHands said:
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I understand that Dan White got two years for the cold-blooded murder of Moscone and Milk in SF in 1978 because he was high on sugar and incapable of thinking clearly, the famed 'Twinkie Defense'.



Our legal system at work.  Isn't it wonderful?



thats an isolated case dude. and immediately after that a lot of states made changes to the insanity defense.

OrgoneConclusion said:
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All I can say is that mental hospitals are not exactly a day on the beach



Yeah, but you can smuggle in broads and booze for a late night party.



or you could fly them in under a certain type of nest.


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Edited by learningtofly (11/07/09 07:45 PM)

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