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Wrekstar
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Ever tried toad venom ?
#11404134 - 11/07/09 11:31 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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just wanted to know has anyone tried or heard of experiences from toad venom and if so how are you supposed to use it ? smoke it and how ?
thanks
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kydelic
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Re: Ever tried toad venom ? [Re: Wrekstar]
#11404145 - 11/07/09 11:33 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Extract from the toad (squeeze glands) and collect. Dry it, smoke it like crack.
Or check Erowid.
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Wrekstar
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Re: Ever tried toad venom ? [Re: kydelic]
#11404157 - 11/07/09 11:34 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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oh
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Re: Ever tried toad venom ? [Re: Wrekstar]
#11404211 - 11/07/09 11:40 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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its called DMT
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nowwhoutthink
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Re: Ever tried toad venom ? [Re: 2Cents]
#11404224 - 11/07/09 11:41 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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i started a thread like this a while ago....
but yea..just get some DMT.
you can actually buy the toads online..!
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2Cents
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step one: buy toad step two: love toad step three: wait till toad matures step four: milk toads vemom glands step five: dry venom step six: smoke dryed DMT(venom)
http://www.bouncingbearbotanicals.com/colorado-river-toad-p-368.html
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nowwhoutthink
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Re: Ever tried toad venom ? [Re: 2Cents]
#11404276 - 11/07/09 11:47 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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yea man but that just seems wrong and odd for some reason...
hey man...i just got some dank toads in the mail..you wanna get high?
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I don't think of psychedelics as "getting high" its a insightful and mindful experience for me.
On a side note: you have to squeeze the glads rather hard and it may seam like your hurting the toad but it doesn't hurt them so don't worry, just don't milk em to often.
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Re: Ever tried toad venom ? [Re: 2Cents]
#11404351 - 11/07/09 11:54 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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The venom isn't DMT (n,n-DMT), it's 5-MeO-DMT (and some bufotenin). For comparison psilocybin is O-phosphoryl-4-hydroxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine, and psilocin is 4-HO-DMT.
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Edited by kydelic (11/07/09 11:55 AM)
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Re: Ever tried toad venom ? [Re: kydelic]
#11404377 - 11/07/09 11:56 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I understand that the chemical structures are different but the abbreviation is still DMT, I supposes I should have clarified that, my bad and thank you kydelic for clearing that up. I am un familiar with the differences in effect from the two chemicals, whats the comparison?
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Cognitive_Shift
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Re: Ever tried toad venom ? [Re: 2Cents]
#11404390 - 11/07/09 11:58 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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@ copious amounts of noobs most likely in the age range of 15-18
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kydelic
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Re: Ever tried toad venom ? [Re: 2Cents]
#11404403 - 11/07/09 11:59 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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They're just different chemicals but with a DMT base, it's no good to mix them up, active doses are quite different, they look different, and the effects are similar, but still have some subtle differences.
For toad venom I usually say methoxy DMT, and by the way bufotenin is 5-OH-DMT (5 hydroxy dimethyltryptamine). I've not had the pleasure of sampling any of these, but according to TIKHAL and erowid, there are quite a few differences, an important one being that n,n-DMT is endogenous to humans, while 5-MeO-DMT is not.
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Cognitive_Shift said: @ copious amounts of noobs most likely in the age range of 15-18
fuck I'm figured out!
but in all seriousness Im pretty sure that the info I posted is correct....
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Re: Ever tried toad venom ? [Re: 2Cents]
#11404422 - 11/07/09 12:02 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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kydelic is right, except subtle is a bad word to describe the differences (in the experience)
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this is why I love the shroomery, I learn things every day. thanks guys
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Re: Ever tried toad venom ? [Re: kydelic]
#11404448 - 11/07/09 12:05 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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kydelic said: They're just different chemicals but with a DMT base, it's no good to mix them up, active doses are quite different, they look different, and the effects are similar, but still have some subtle differences.
For toad venom I usually say methoxy DMT, and by the way bufotenin is 5-OH-DMT (5 hydroxy dimethyltryptamine). I've not had the pleasure of sampling any of these, but according to TIKHAL and erowid, there are quite a few differences, an important one being that n,n-DMT is endogenous to humans, while 5-MeO-DMT is not.
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Re: Ever tried toad venom ? [Re: 2Cents]
#11404619 - 11/07/09 12:33 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
kydelic said: The venom isn't DMT (n,n-DMT), it's 5-MeO-DMT (and some bufotenin). For comparison psilocybin is O-phosphoryl-4-hydroxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine, and psilocin is 4-HO-DMT.
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2Cents said: I understand that the chemical structures are different but the abbreviation is still DMT, I supposes I should have clarified that, my bad and thank you kydelic for clearing that up. I am un familiar with the differences in effect from the two chemicals, whats the comparison?
Just so you know, the difference is not trivial. smoking/vaporizing some n,n-DMT is INCREDIBLY DIFFERENT than the experience from that of 5-MeO-DMT and bufotenin. With n,n-DMT you can go beyond the dazzling visual displays and leave your physical body behind to travel the cosmos and consciousness. 5-Meo is like being hit in the face with a psychedelic Louisville Slugger a billion times a second.
compared to the alien and transcendental experience ofpure n,n-DMT; 5-MeO-DMT is utter belligerent psychedelia
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Re: Ever tried toad venom ? [Re: mataylor]
#11404712 - 11/07/09 12:46 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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mataylor said:
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kydelic said: The venom isn't DMT (n,n-DMT), it's 5-MeO-DMT (and some bufotenin). For comparison psilocybin is O-phosphoryl-4-hydroxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine, and psilocin is 4-HO-DMT.
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2Cents said: I understand that the chemical structures are different but the abbreviation is still DMT, I supposes I should have clarified that, my bad and thank you kydelic for clearing that up. I am un familiar with the differences in effect from the two chemicals, whats the comparison?
Just so you know, the difference is not trivial. smoking/vaporizing some n,n-DMT is INCREDIBLY DIFFERENT than the experience from that of 5-MeO-DMT and bufotenin. With n,n-DMT you can go beyond the dazzling visual displays and leave your physical body behind to travel the cosmos and consciousness. 5-Meo is like being hit in the face with a psychedelic Louisville Slugger a billion times a second.
compared to the alien and transcendental experience ofpure n,n-DMT; 5-MeO-DMT is utter belligerent psychedelia
thank you this definitely explained what I wanted to know.
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kydelic
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Re: Ever tried toad venom ? [Re: mataylor]
#11406552 - 11/07/09 05:39 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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mataylor said:
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kydelic said: The venom isn't DMT (n,n-DMT), it's 5-MeO-DMT (and some bufotenin). For comparison psilocybin is O-phosphoryl-4-hydroxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine, and psilocin is 4-HO-DMT.
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2Cents said: I understand that the chemical structures are different but the abbreviation is still DMT, I supposes I should have clarified that, my bad and thank you kydelic for clearing that up. I am un familiar with the differences in effect from the two chemicals, whats the comparison?
Just so you know, the difference is not trivial. smoking/vaporizing some n,n-DMT is INCREDIBLY DIFFERENT than the experience from that of 5-MeO-DMT and bufotenin. With n,n-DMT you can go beyond the dazzling visual displays and leave your physical body behind to travel the cosmos and consciousness. 5-Meo is like being hit in the face with a psychedelic Louisville Slugger a billion times a second.
compared to the alien and transcendental experience ofpure n,n-DMT; 5-MeO-DMT is utter belligerent psychedelia
Thanks for the clarification, as I said I haven't been able to try any of them, good to hear better experience than what I could glean from some experience reports.
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