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mattbloggs
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DMT - Mimosa Hostilis and Psilocybin - Mushrooms (Legality confusion)
#11402634 - 11/07/09 04:49 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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DMT is a class A drug in England Psilocybin is a class A drug in England.
Mushrooms contain Psilocybin and are therefore illegal to posses or supply.
Mimosa Hostilis contains DMT but is not illegal to posses or supply.
My own brain naturally contains DMT but again, is not illegal to posses.
Can anyone explain this?
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Re: DMT - Mimosa Hostilis and Psilocybin - Mushrooms (Legality confusion) [Re: mattbloggs]
#11402722 - 11/07/09 05:37 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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I dont quite understand why myself but dmt containing plants arnt illegal to possess, maybe because the DMT is in a slightly different form which isnt listed i dont know.
I know mimossa hostilis root bark has other uses, its a really good die and i think it can also be used to treat wounds.
It is a little confusing as its so easy to extract.
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mattbloggs
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Re: DMT - Mimosa Hostilis and Psilocybin - Mushrooms (Legality confusion) [Re: mattbloggs]
#11402760 - 11/07/09 05:56 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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i think it just points out how disconnected from reality drug prohibition is or can be...
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veda_sticks
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Re: DMT - Mimosa Hostilis and Psilocybin - Mushrooms (Legality confusion) [Re: mattbloggs]
#11402796 - 11/07/09 06:17 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
mattbloggs said: i think it just points out how disconnected from reality drug prohibition is or can be...
yeah that and the fact that it takes so long for something to pass through all the people and being discussed etc before it is put into force.
It probably will be made illegal at some point.
Look at RC's theres some pretty scary chemicals that are very easy to get a hold of and pretty cheap, which can be very addictive ending up consuming far to much in 1 night. been around for atleast a year and its now only starting to get put through to being made illegal even for selling not for human consumption. I think its decemeber it could be happening.
enjoy it while its still easily availible.
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Re: DMT - Mimosa Hostilis and Psilocybin - Mushrooms (Legality confusion) [Re: veda_sticks]
#11402876 - 11/07/09 07:07 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think it has to do with the fact that once mushrooms are cultivated all you have to do is pop them in your mouth for a good trip and MHRB has to be broken down(by chemical process) and then the active alkaloids have to be removed.Maybe the government thinks we are lazy and will not take the little bit of effort to extract the dmt.
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joemolloy
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Re: DMT - Mimosa Hostilis and Psilocybin - Mushrooms (Legality confusion) [Re: veda_sticks]
#11402885 - 11/07/09 07:10 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's a legal gray area and all the suppliers know there is risk involved in selling the shit.
It seems that for the time being they are not interested in investigating or prosecuting the sale of mimosa hostilis. I am sure that it would be easy to arrest a supplier or get a search warrant based off of a supplier's list of customers especially if a customer orders kilos of mimosa hostilis. It looks like massive drug manufacturing with intent to distribute.
Looking at Operation Web Tryp from a few years back, I don't think they went after customers and that is encouraging. Although we really don't know if the DEA passed consumer information on to local police and the consequences of that.
Let's say some state gets a bug up their ass decides that a vendor selling MHRB is really selling thinly veiled DMT. It is no sweat to arrest someone. They let the courts sort the mess out. Now whether any of those charges stick in a court is another story. But how many of you have the luxury of time and money to fight in court?
The bottom line is that as a consumer, your risk level is probably small but if I were a vendor I would have trouble sleeping at night.
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Re: DMT - Mimosa Hostilis and Psilocybin - Mushrooms (Legality confusion) [Re: joemolloy]
#11402910 - 11/07/09 07:24 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mushrooms have obtained a huge amount of noteriety.
Same as LSD..... or crack cocaine.
MDMA was legal until people started dying of heat stroke at raves..........
DMT is still kinda on the "fringes" of drug culture, Gangs arent selling it, Kids arent dying from it yet. Salvia is already illegal in a few states. Thanks to the dummies on Utube.  I think it comes down to "popularity" , once enough people are abusing ANY drug....problems like psychosis and death will ensue, OR even complete red-herrings, "we dont know enough about these drugs, they are damaging their brains!" To keep a good public face(and funding) the guvment is going to have to "protect the children"..... bye-bye mimosa hostillis.
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Re: DMT - Mimosa Hostilis and Psilocybin - Mushrooms (Legality confusion) [Re: Shad0w]
#11403546 - 11/07/09 10:09 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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so... i wonder, can i be arrested for possession of a penial gland?
is possession of ones own brain going to become a criminal offence?
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Shad0w
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Re: DMT - Mimosa Hostilis and Psilocybin - Mushrooms (Legality confusion) [Re: mattbloggs]
#11405258 - 11/07/09 02:17 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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You smoke too much weed.
LoL
Not yet, we have a few more years before the mind will be criminalized for "unlawful use" of a "controlled substance".
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joemolloy
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Re: DMT - Mimosa Hostilis and Psilocybin - Mushrooms (Legality confusion) [Re: Shad0w]
#11405404 - 11/07/09 02:40 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Shad0w said: Mushrooms have obtained a huge amount of noteriety.
Same as LSD..... or crack cocaine.
MDMA was legal until people started dying of heat stroke at raves..........
DMT is still kinda on the "fringes" of drug culture, Gangs arent selling it, Kids arent dying from it yet. Salvia is already illegal in a few states. Thanks to the dummies on Utube.  I think it comes down to "popularity" , once enough people are abusing ANY drug....problems like psychosis and death will ensue, OR even complete red-herrings, "we dont know enough about these drugs, they are damaging their brains!" To keep a good public face(and funding) the guvment is going to have to "protect the children"..... bye-bye mimosa hostillis.
Right, we'll be alright as long as DMT doesn't make a splash in the national news. Law enforcement is a political beast and they are reactive rather than proactive especially when it comes to obscure psychedelics.
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Re: DMT - Mimosa Hostilis and Psilocybin - Mushrooms (Legality confusion) [Re: joemolloy]
#11405486 - 11/07/09 02:52 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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The mind of human been is faster than the papers of low is my opinion. Even if the government bans mimosa then we will find another drug. And the spores of shrooms doesnt have Psilocybin so it is legal to grow them ! Mushrooms can find by hunting . There are a lot of things that government cannot control by papers lows and caps.
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Re: DMT - Mimosa Hostilis and Psilocybin - Mushrooms (Legality confusion) [Re: albien5]
#11405702 - 11/07/09 03:27 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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for ages they daemonized the Jews now it is the mushrooms and the Jews things are getting worse and worse. stupider and stupider. I blame the Christians.
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