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Spawnbags -vs- Jars with holes premade for syringe???
    #11398999 - 11/06/09 05:01 PM (8 years, 17 days ago)

as my friends and I are completely new with this mush growing, we were looking for the absolute easiest way to start them off and learn from that.

which would you suggest to a newbie...and will one syringe only give you 1 or 1-3 pokes to inoculate? the jars/bags?

this is embarrassingly simple///but once you start to see the white fuzz? growing all over, is that time to turn over and put them on the cake??? or whatever substance inside a Tupperware with a low light over it???

does it need fans???

this may be so effin wrong, but i was just trying to put down the basics of what I "thought I Knew"

and from the time fruit starts to show how long til harvest...I hear around 6 weeks or so??? is that way off???

trust me i plan on doing mega reading....just thought id see what help you could give me before hand.

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any help would be fully appreciated, please no newb or stupid remarks...I buy not grow..im new to dis shit...


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Re: Spawnbags -vs- Jars with holes premade for syringe??? [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11399046 - 11/06/09 05:07 PM (8 years, 17 days ago)

Bags have more substrate than a jar usually holds, and you can use 3 cc to 5 on one bag successfully. For jars you need to PC them but you can use less spore solution.


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Re: Spawnbags -vs- Jars with holes premade for syringe??? [Re: kydelic]
    #11399348 - 11/06/09 05:49 PM (8 years, 17 days ago)

so bags would be easier and yield more??

all and any help is appreciated...just need help gettin off my feet.


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Re: Spawnbags -vs- Jars with holes premade for syringe??? [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11399763 - 11/06/09 07:03 PM (8 years, 17 days ago)

Usually, guys use bags or jars to colonize 'spawn'.  Then they mix the colonized spawn to a pasteurized bulk substrate ... let that colonize 100% ... then fruit that out.

With bags you'll want to have a good amount of liquid innoculant  (LC) .... and you need a big pressure cooker and long sterilization times. 

With jars you'll be doing a lot of jar washing.

Read, read, read.

Are you going to do the PF Tek or jump right into bulk substrates?

Another answer; from first sign of fruits to harvest could be as short as a week and as long as 10 days.


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Re: Spawnbags -vs- Jars with holes premade for syringe??? [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11400557 - 11/06/09 09:39 PM (8 years, 17 days ago)



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Re: Spawnbags -vs- Jars with holes premade for syringe??? [Re: Shea25]
    #11401018 - 11/06/09 11:17 PM (8 years, 17 days ago)

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With bags you'll want to have a good amount of liquid innoculant  (LC)




You don't need liquid culture, you can do just fine with a multispore.


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Re: Spawnbags -vs- Jars with holes premade for syringe??? [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11401061 - 11/06/09 11:29 PM (8 years, 17 days ago)

LoL

Ok, I am totally high right now.

So I will be nice. :grin:

I would say go for jars.

If you like shrooms jars are re-usable and more adaptable.

Bags..... you gotta keep buying, or make your own.

If you just want to "try it out" bags will be fine.



1 10cc syringe -can- 'noc' as many as 20+ successful halfpint jars.

You could push this even further with an LC.

WBS tek isnt much harder than PFtek if you think you can understand that.

A pressure cooker makes a GREAT roast as well. :headbanger:

On cakes, White fuzz, then wait one more week, then dump 'em in your fruiting chamber.

"low light" you -could- get away with ambient light from a nearby window.

6 weeks is way off..... once you see pins, we start talking about days, a week tops before you can harvest.

AND THEN, depending on how many flushes you can pull before you get bored and tired, or you gets contams......

You might be staight PICKING shrooms for a two, three weeks maybe a month or more.

A fan helps for drying. But, honestly, set them on the kitchen table for 2-3 days....... they will be dry.




That should help you out a bit.

Definatly do some reading.

Prep yourself up with what you will need, you could wait on the FC, But, get everything else you will need on hand.

FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS.

Wait.

It doesnt get easier than that.

Good luck. :cool:



P.S. This is the wrong forum for cultivation questions, Right below the Psychedelic Experience forum, is the Cultivation forum. Use that next time, you will get very good answers.


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Re: Spawnbags -vs- Jars with holes premade for syringe??? [Re: Shad0w]
    #11401248 - 11/07/09 12:09 AM (8 years, 17 days ago)

Forgot to mention the reusability of jars. Another massive pro to using jars if you can get them.


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Re: Spawnbags -vs- Jars with holes premade for syringe??? [Re: kydelic]
    #11402029 - 11/07/09 02:46 AM (8 years, 17 days ago)

man u need to do some reading!

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Re: Spawnbags -vs- Jars with holes premade for syringe??? [Re: canadadreaming]
    #11403007 - 11/07/09 10:17 AM (8 years, 16 days ago)

thanks everyone man! i know i need lots of reading .lots..

i was mainly just trying to see if the bags or jars were a better bet.


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Re: Spawnbags -vs- Jars with holes premade for syringe??? [Re: Shea25]
    #11403107 - 11/07/09 10:43 AM (8 years, 16 days ago)

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Shea25 said:
This belongs here http://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/2

Not here





if this needs to be moved..please do so...

im just trying to get a feeling on what everyones opinion on is bewteen bags and jars for newbs.

and yes..i know i have a lot of readin to do, I got the logistics of it down, but dont know any of the lingo and shit..


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Re: Spawnbags -vs- Jars with holes premade for syringe??? [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11403141 - 11/07/09 10:49 AM (8 years, 16 days ago)

Its not a big deal. But, you should start by checking out the forums you are planning on reading, and read the guidlines and rules, some are PRETTY specific.

I think in the Cultivation forum they have a stickied thread just for new growers. :smile:

~EDIT~ : Yup, Just found it.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9285870/fpart/1/vc/1/nt/12


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Re: Spawnbags -vs- Jars with holes premade for syringe??? [Re: Shad0w]
    #11403184 - 11/07/09 11:00 AM (8 years, 16 days ago)

thanks man...i was kinda on cloud 9 last night..haha

would have been more attentive otherwise...

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