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What psychedelic do you suggest I start with?
    #11397205 - 11/06/09 01:07 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I am on some medications:
Seroquel
Zoloft
Adderall (regular and XR)
And Zantec

I've kind of been meaning to detox from them to try some "natural alternatives" and free myself from the reins of those chemicals, maybe see what I'm like without them.
I just got a case of the swine flu, and I am getting healed up, but accidentally I kind of started a bit of a detox:
I got put on tamiflu for a few days.
But then I ran out of Seroquel, Adderall (regular one), and zoloft. I just stopped taking my zantec because of the flu and it's stomach issues.
I've been of the regular adderall for a while now and zoloft and seroquel for a day. I am supposed to be getting them refilled today.


Anyway, what psychedelic drug do you suggest I start with, and what do you suggest about the medications? Stop them completely before taking any entheogens, just take a break for X amount of days, or they won't make a difference.

The entheogens I can probably get my hands on are:
Saliva
DMT
LSA
LSH
Mescaline
Mushies (these are a good candidate because they have been said to be GREAT for OCD)

I could probably get my hands on Lucy, but probably not until Rothbury.

Thanks in advance!
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Re: What psychedelic do you suggest I start with? [Re: naturallyunnatural]
    #11397262 - 11/06/09 01:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

If your body is used to being on mood-altering drugs, going off them before tripping will probably put you in a bad state of mind.

I can't recommend a mid-range dose of mescaline enough for a first timer, because that was how I did it. My first trip was nothing but fun. Moderate amounts of mescaline are not particularly intoxicating, and you tend to keep your head while seeing some absolutely beautiful visuals. Try to do it in the day time, and in nature. Good luck! :rainbowcloud:


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Re: What psychedelic do you suggest I start with? [Re: Lancaster]
    #11398338 - 11/06/09 03:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I started on LSD and it was absoloutely amazing, the only time i have every had the world split up into proper psychedelic kaleidoscopic fractals. I have heard this from other people and they have never again been able to replicate the experience visually (obviously impossible to replicate your first experience on any psychedelic but this is different) same as me. So ya LSD for sure.


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Re: What psychedelic do you suggest I start with? [Re: Grapefruit]
    #11399197 - 11/06/09 05:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

if your on that much meds i definitely would not advise stopping them all and tripping. like lancaster said, its not necessarily going to go well.

rather i would suggest maybe some weed (maybe not) and meditation. you can get to the same places with meditation, it just takes a lot longer. but meditation does not interact with meds.

however if you are determined to use psychedelics for noble reasons, ie personal growth and not just to do drugs, i would suggest you talk to your doctor. tell them you want to try being off of all your meds for a little while to see how you can handle it. say you don't like to rely on drugs to function everyday, or something like that.

after you've been off for a while, a good dose of lsd or mushrooms in a good set (mindset) and setting could potentially be extremely beneficial and help you work a lot out.

just don't stop taking your meds arbitrarily. we don't really know what kind of reactions that could cause, but your doctors are supposed to. thats why they are doctors.


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Re: What psychedelic do you suggest I start with? [Re: zombi]
    #11399444 - 11/06/09 06:02 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

My first psychedelic was salvia. Second was mushrooms and they are MUCH better IMO.


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Re: What psychedelic do you suggest I start with? [Re: zombi]
    #11399720 - 11/06/09 06:56 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks, I totally agree. By the way, I did plan on using meditation to withdraw off my meds and then after use a psychedelic, just not necessarily the only option.


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Re: What psychedelic do you suggest I start with? [Re: naturallyunnatural]
    #11399799 - 11/06/09 07:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Kinda depends on what you're up for.  You want a short burst of psychedelia or a full-on voyage?  I'd say start with a longer lasting psychedelic first, then try the more intense psychedelics after you have a little understanding.  I started with salvia and didn't "get it."  Tried LSD, "got it."  Haha, been "getting it" ever since.


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Re: What psychedelic do you suggest I start with? [Re: naturallyunnatural]
    #11399823 - 11/06/09 07:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Ive alwayz felt that mushroomsare the perfect into to psychedelics but the quality of shroms arnt alwayz that good. if its your first trip it will be good no matter what quality but i had liberty caps my frist trip and damn i was lucky.


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Re: What psychedelic do you suggest I start with? [Re: Benzine]
    #11399885 - 11/06/09 07:21 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I dunno, I'd say LSD. Shrooms are more likely to throw you into a bad trip, and on acid you're more in control. My first experience was on shrooms though, and it was awesome, so really, just look into the options and make your own decisions. All of them are just as easy to handle as the next if you take a reasonable dose for your first time.


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Re: What psychedelic do you suggest I start with? [Re: surferdude66066]
    #11399896 - 11/06/09 07:23 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I'd say a low/medium dose of DMT. It's awesome and only lasts 7min so if you feel that psychedelics aren't for you, you don't have to wait 12 hours.


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Re: What psychedelic do you suggest I start with? [Re: surferdude66066]
    #11399927 - 11/06/09 07:28 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Its true that this is my own subjective experience but rly i think low doses of psilocybin mushrooms are the perfect beginning into the realm of psychedelia. High doses of course are wayy to intense but thats the great thing about shrooms you can rly have any kind of experience with them. i think they have the best life changing first trips when you get your first good does. They have something amazing and spiritual experience. They give you a good kick into psychedelia that isnt overwhelming and i just feel there good to do before acid. Shrooms are just alwayz good for any intensity trip. You can have the power full and wonderful amazing trips that arnt to intense just as intense as you want or you can go into the mind blowing ego destroyers when you have more experience with psychedelics.


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Re: What psychedelic do you suggest I start with? [Re: Benzine]
    #11399960 - 11/06/09 07:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I meditate and I have not used a psychedelic but experienced on information and community about it.


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Re: What psychedelic do you suggest I start with? [Re: naturallyunnatural]
    #11400231 - 11/06/09 08:24 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

mushrooms are probably the best way to go, salvia creates a sort of uncomfortable environment so i wouldn't reccomend that stuff, and i would say mescaline or lsa if not mushrooms.


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Re: What psychedelic do you suggest I start with? [Re: other one]
    #11400364 - 11/06/09 08:52 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

My two choices for you are......

Peruvian Torch or San Pedro cactus, following FrenchMachines fresk tek.

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Shrooms.


Cactus Pros : On moderate dosage. 12-20+ inches of San Pedro, You will have a psychedelic experience that is very laid back, easy to be social and emotionally content/connected and aware. Visuals will be present, but generally somewhat subtle. Super body feeling. Very easy to have a good trip.

Cactus Cons : You have to eat a TON of nasty tasting cactus, AND you will probably barf it all back up later. It takes a long time to kick in, couple of hours or so. The trip itself is VERY long compared to others, so if you find you dont like tripping..... you have to wait.



Shrooms Pros : Small dosage for large effect. Can be brewed into tea for sensitive stomachs. Visuals , if present, are pretty spectacular. Mind state is very flexible, emotional content of visions is palpable, the fluidity between this reality and another is apparant, in other words "very trippy"
This is a -very- useful teacher plant. Moderate duration.

Shrooms Cons : You might not like the taste. Some people puke( tea will help ), Sometimes you dont get visuals at all. Mind state is very flexible, you can go from feeling great to a trip into your own personal hell in moments. It is somewhat common to blackout or lose conciousness( this applies to all, but is somewhat more prevelant in shroom reports).


I would say shrooms because you are less likely to be dissapointed, cactus potency can vary a bit, and it is a lot of effort to get it in your gut to only be dissapointed by your first trip.

Shrooms..... eat 2-3g your world will be rocked.... but not so hard that you will be running around naked or stabbing people.......



You have researched I assume?

Keep the basics in mind.

  You have ingested magic mushrooms and are tripping out right now. In a few hours, everything will be back to "normal".
  There is NO possible way that you have OD'd on shrooms.... you only ate a NORMAL amount(from 1g to 28g+  ), You will not die.
  You will not "be crazy forever", the drugs WILL wear off, and even if it doesnt, is it that bad to trip forever?
 
      Relax.
Float.
      Calm.
Everything is O.K.

Relax. Breathe in thru your nose.....

              ....and out thru your mouth.

ITs O.K. Just go with the flow. Do not resist. Resistance is creating the negative feeling. Do not resist, Just....

      Relax.
Float.
      Calm.

Everything is O.K.


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Re: What psychedelic do you suggest I start with? [Re: Shad0w]
    #11400437 - 11/06/09 09:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

i guess start with 2cb or MDA. Than shrooms and than acid.....


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Re: What psychedelic do you suggest I start with? [Re: all_for_war]
    #11400455 - 11/06/09 09:15 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Marijuana is ur best bet... You need to smoke bud man, it will eliminate alot of those pills... But then again I have high ADHD and I won't take cough medicine or an asprin if I get sick.... Eat the shrooms.. It will tell you alot about your self


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Re: What psychedelic do you suggest I start with? [Re: Juntao]
    #11400485 - 11/06/09 09:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

It depends. Personally i would say mushrooms or salvia.


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Re: What psychedelic do you suggest I start with? [Re: Juntao]
    #11400507 - 11/06/09 09:25 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I say a medium dose of mescaline :smile: but take a look at his state of mind.LOL he is "tripping" now,so what ever you took I would take it again.LOL


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Re: What psychedelic do you suggest I start with? [Re: all_for_war]
    #11400604 - 11/06/09 09:52 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I wouldnt get into that shit if i where you. nither is a true psychedelic, there both half ass psychedelics with depressing comedowns. Dont do hose first etleast


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Re: What psychedelic do you suggest I start with? [Re: DNBplus]
    #11400668 - 11/06/09 10:07 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I say a medium dose of mescaline :smile: but take a look at his state of mind.LOL he is "tripping" now,so what ever you took I would take it again.LOL



:rolleyes: Well, I don't want to come off as one of those idiots who acts like a tripper but has never tripped (tho I probly am). But, ya know, I meditate and all that kind of mind expanding stuff and I feel like I am kinda on one of the higher circuits most of the time, I hallucinate shit a lot and have some pretty trippy experiences, really spiritual and stuff too, hence me wanting to take it to the next level.
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