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Almost colonized in burned jars (PICS)
    #11396916 - 11/06/09 12:16 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

So my first attempt at growing with BRF cakes and I had no protection on the bottom of my pressure cooker, thus burning the jars/substrate. I knew they were dark, but was too excited and injected the spores anyways.

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After this I started to realize how badly burned they were and pretty much gave up on them, but I left them in my room to see if anything would happen. Out of the five total, to my surprise, 2 survived and are almost fully colonized.

The mycelium is fighting eat through the burned substrate and succeeding.



I've never read of anyone birthing a burned cake.. are they going to still be ok? Will it create some new ultra-potent, genetically deformed super shroom?


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Re: Almost colonized in burned jars (PICS) [Re: phx1]
    #11397043 - 11/06/09 12:40 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

cut off burnt part and fruit


and you have quite an imagination buddy


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Re: Almost colonized in burned jars (PICS) [Re: fordrew]
    #11397215 - 11/06/09 01:08 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

What'll happen if I wait a few days until they are fully colonized?


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Re: Almost colonized in burned jars (PICS) [Re: phx1]
    #11397243 - 11/06/09 01:13 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

OH, so it is colonizing the burnt part?  Just allow it to colonize normally.


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Re: Almost colonized in burned jars (PICS) [Re: phx1]
    #11397280 - 11/06/09 01:20 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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phx1 said:
Will it create some new ultra-potent, genetically deformed super shroom?




Absolutely, I have known this for a while but haven't posted...
there is no doubt about it
burnt cakes are THE secret for making mutant super-shrooms :mushroom2:
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Re: Almost colonized in burned jars (PICS) [Re: fordrew]
    #11397297 - 11/06/09 01:21 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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OH, so it is colonizing the burnt part?  Just allow it to colonize normally.




Yep, sure is. I'm just curious if there will be anything different from the colonized regular cakes and the colonized burned cakes.


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Re: Almost colonized in burned jars (PICS) [Re: phx1]
    #11397330 - 11/06/09 01:24 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

nah, you just have a silly imagination...

Burnt "mushroom food" means burnt nutrients , also means composition change but why would anyone expect anything different from that? well I am done rambling.


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Re: Almost colonized in burned jars (PICS) [Re: fordrew]
    #11397364 - 11/06/09 01:30 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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nah, you just have a silly imagination...

Burnt "mushroom food" means burnt nutrients , also means composition change but why would anyone expect anything different from that? well I am done rambling.




I was joking about the super shroom, if you couldn't tell.

If you want me to restate my question it is "what is the consequence of burnt nutrients and composition change in a shroom cake"? Will they produce less fruit? Will they in any way grow different or fruit different than a normal cake?


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Re: Almost colonized in burned jars (PICS) [Re: phx1]
    #11399856 - 11/06/09 07:16 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Anyone know? Do I have anything to worry about w/ these?


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Re: Almost colonized in burned jars (PICS) [Re: phx1]
    #11399917 - 11/06/09 07:26 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

the mushrooms will grow the same regardless.


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Re: Almost colonized in burned jars (PICS) [Re: phx1]
    #11399954 - 11/06/09 07:32 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, I wouldn't worry about it. Burnt = carbon, the basic building block of ALL life on Earth.

Besides, it might improve the flavor. 

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I shit you not, tasted like pizza...


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Re: Almost colonized in burned jars (PICS) [Re: BrandNewbie]
    #11399971 - 11/06/09 07:35 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

the burnt part is DRY and stealing moisture from the rest of the cake as the MYC created metabolites to moisten and devoure it.

make sure you dunk


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    #11399999 - 11/06/09 07:40 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Almost colonized in burned jars (PICS) [Re: NetDiver]
    #11400156 - 11/06/09 08:11 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I would be careful eating those fruits. but today is your lucky day, send me your first flush, ill try them out and let you know if they are safe.


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Re: Almost colonized in burned jars (PICS) [Re: pandelic]
    #11459247 - 11/15/09 12:56 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Little update.. they are fully colonized (the mycelium covers the entire cake), but there is still a decent amount of that brown-colored mycelium in the bottom corner of the jars.

Should I just leave it as is, cut it off?


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Re: Almost colonized in burned jars (PICS) [Re: phx1]
    #11459282 - 11/15/09 01:06 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

The burning probably dried out that area. I have grown on burnt wheat before. Check it out here http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4649222#4649222

I have also been reading how roast grains are beneficial to animals, and I reckon it could make digestion easier for myc too.


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