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Web opens up fresh drug market in Europe....
    #11395729 - 11/06/09 05:13 AM (8 years, 15 days ago)

November 5th, 2009 - Radio Netherlands Worldwide



A new front is opening in the war on drugs, with the internet emerging as an option to buy a plethora of hallucinogenics and synthetic drugs, according to the EU's drugs watchdog, the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction (EMCDDA).

The availability of everything from magic mushrooms to 'fashionable' synthetic drugs and their "aggressive marketing and intentional mislabelling" are complicating the fight against drug abuse in Europe, warns the Lisbon-based agency in its annual report.

The findings by the EMCDDA show that Europe is also losing the fight against hard drugs. Over five million people in the EU and Norway are believed to have used cocaine and heroine in the past year alone.

With a random search on Google for magic mushroom retailers producing half a million entries, it is little wonder than the agency is concerned. Julian Vincente of the EMCDDA says the internet greatly complicates detection and control as illegal substances are often packaged up as legal products.



"This is an area that's changing very quickly. For instance, there are herbal mixtures containing synthetic cannabis [that is five times more powerful than natural cannabis]. These substances are in a grey legal area, so you can't have the same quality control as with medicines."

According to the study, the synthetic cannabis substitute Spice was offered by nearly half of the 115 online drug retailers surveyed in 2009.

Cracking down on the traffickers themselves is also harder, as the sellers often operate from abroad, says Floor van Bakkum from the Dutch addiction agency, Jellinek Prevention. "So national authorities have to use cross-border crime laws, which is very complicated," she says. But she isn't convinced the online market will take off, pointing to the risks it poses for both sellers and buyers.

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"If you buy online, you have to send an email and you have to get it through the post, and most people won't be happy getting illegal substances by mail as they're afraid the government would sniff it out and they'd get into trouble. So I don't think there's a big market for illegal substances online," Ms van Bakkum told Radio Netherlands Worldwide.

Ms van Bakkum also says that getting hold of illegal drugs is still hard on the web, with the exception of magic mushrooms.

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The online development, though, is part of a bigger trend suggesting that drug traffickers are becoming increasingly sophisticated, says EMCDDA.

"The traffickers are always one step ahead of what we're doing. They have more information, they are working more closely together and they have more global networks," says Wolfgang Goetz, the EU drugs watchdog's director.

"Cocaine and cannabis are now being seized together, meaning that South American traffickers are working together with North African traffickers. So we have to step up our monitoring."

Cocaine and heroin are still very popular in Europe, especially in Western European countries like Spain, Denmark and Britain. "There is little to suggest any improvement regarding cocaine and heroin use in Europe, the two substances that remain at the heart of Europe's drugs problem," the report says.

The trends often reflect the fashionability of a certain drug, rather than its legal status, adds Julian Vincente. Although over 20 million Europeans are thought to have used cannabis in the past year, the drug's popularity has fallen in the Netherlands, where it is legally available in coffee shops.

"Cannabis is less fashionable now. But cocaine is popular, it's available and it's linked to glamour and nightlife."


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Re: Web opens up fresh drug market in Europe.... [Re: Twiztidsage]
    #11395732 - 11/06/09 05:16 AM (8 years, 15 days ago)

It's funny that the Hawaiian Copes are labeled as "Psilocibe cyane....", and the other cubes don't say cubensis anywhere, but they say "Psilocibe colombiescens".

Silly.


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Re: Web opens up fresh drug market in Europe.... [Re: Twiztidsage]
    #11395737 - 11/06/09 05:21 AM (8 years, 15 days ago)

They're so cute when they call it an emerging market. Dipshits are 10 years behind; no big surprise.


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Re: Web opens up fresh drug market in Europe.... [Re: Twiztidsage]
    #11395932 - 11/06/09 07:55 AM (8 years, 15 days ago)

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With a random search on Google for magic mushroom retailers producing half a million entries, it is little wonder than the agency is concerned.




You could type "Buy Nuclear Weapons" into Google and get as many results. What is your point exactly?


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Re: Web opens up fresh drug market in Europe.... [Re: sorahtak]
    #11396244 - 11/06/09 09:31 AM (8 years, 15 days ago)

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With a random search on Google for magic mushroom retailers producing half a million entries, it is little wonder than the agency is concerned.




You could type "Buy Nuclear Weapons" into Google and get as many results. What is your point exactly?




I saw that too, poorly written article


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Re: Web opens up fresh drug market in Europe.... [Re: neopet nub]
    #11396296 - 11/06/09 09:44 AM (8 years, 15 days ago)

Actually "Results 1 - 10 of about 2,820,000 for buy nuclear weapons. (0.21 seconds)"

Here's the kicker, "Results 1 - 10 of about 19,000 for magic mushroom retailers. (0.22 seconds) " NOT EVEN FUCKING CLOSE TO HALF A MILLION.


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Re: Web opens up fresh drug market in Europe.... [Re: learningtofly]
    #11396400 - 11/06/09 10:15 AM (8 years, 15 days ago)

I would consider this whole shpeel to be their grossly misinformed mission statement. Be warned EU, it would appear that some of your leaders plan on a "new and unimproved" crackdown on you.

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Re: Web opens up fresh drug market in Europe.... [Re: PassiveAgressive]
    #11396475 - 11/06/09 10:34 AM (8 years, 14 days ago)

"The traffickers are always one step ahead of what we're doing. They have more information, they are working more closely together and they have more global networks," says Wolfgang Goetz, the EU drugs watchdog's director.

So, ok, everybody in EU pay taxes and the fuckin traffickers are always one step ahead? shit, this is fucked.
and drug traffickers working together? this is business not friendship.


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Re: Web opens up fresh drug market in Europe.... [Re: thefloyd]
    #11396535 - 11/06/09 10:48 AM (8 years, 14 days ago)

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"This is an area that's changing very quickly. For instance, there are herbal mixtures containing synthetic cannabis [that is five times more powerful than natural cannabis]. These substances are in a grey legal area, so you can't have the same quality control as with medicines."




bollocks bollocks complete bollocks.


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Re: Web opens up fresh drug market in Europe.... [Re: ShroomerRoss]
    #11396848 - 11/06/09 12:01 PM (8 years, 14 days ago)

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"This is an area that's changing very quickly. For instance, there are herbal mixtures containing synthetic cannabis [that is five times more powerful than natural cannabis]. These substances are in a grey legal area, so you can't have the same quality control as with medicines."




bollocks bollocks complete bollocks.




yah wtf how does synthetic = 5x more potent?


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Re: Web opens up fresh drug market in Europe.... [Re: learningtofly]
    #11412776 - 11/08/09 07:42 PM (8 years, 12 days ago)

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"This is an area that's changing very quickly. For instance, there are herbal mixtures containing synthetic cannabis [that is five times more powerful than natural cannabis]. These substances are in a grey legal area, so you can't have the same quality control as with medicines."




bollocks bollocks complete bollocks.




yah wtf how does synthetic = 5x more potent?




JWH-018 produces effects at 5x lower doses than THC from weed


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    #11413023 - 11/08/09 08:17 PM (8 years, 12 days ago)

oh from the article i thought it meant that synthesized XYZ was more potent than naturally occurring XYZ.


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Re: Web opens up fresh drug market in Europe.... [Re: Twiztidsage]
    #11414348 - 11/08/09 11:15 PM (8 years, 12 days ago)

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It's funny that the Hawaiian Copes are labeled as "Psilocibe cyane....", and the other cubes don't say cubensis anywhere, but they say "Psilocibe colombiescens".




They are abusing latin.  Should be a crime.

Their Psilocybe columbiascens is clearly cubensis.


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Re: Web opens up fresh drug market in Europe.... [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11416449 - 11/09/09 04:50 AM (8 years, 12 days ago)

So is their "Psilocyne equasescens".
:facepalm:
That's clearly a kiddie tourist trap.


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Re: Web opens up fresh drug market in Europe.... [Re: German Kahuna]
    #11418882 - 11/09/09 03:09 PM (8 years, 11 days ago)

At least those two are in the right genera. The Pan cyans are listed as psilocybes...


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