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OfflineRealized
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Trusting the self
    #11394916 - 11/06/09 01:06 AM (8 years, 17 days ago)

How can I trust myself when I have no self?

What is myself but a system of programing that has been influenced by my environment and my biology, slowly condition overtime. even my attempts to de-programing myself from bias and belief have just been another part of my inevitable programing. How is myself reliable?

Can the heart be trusted? Does the heart even speak?

Is myself the awareness I am experiencing all things through? Is myself only what I am experiencing at this exact moment? My brain? My spirit? The nothing? God?

How can anyone trust themselves knowing this? How is the self a reliable guide?


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“The person lives most beautifully who does not reflect upon existence” - Friedrich Nietzsche

"Change my mind so much I can't even trust it. My mind changes me so much I can't even trust myself."


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Re: Trusting the self [Re: Realized]
    #11395032 - 11/06/09 01:29 AM (8 years, 17 days ago)

well "all perception is gamble" (RAW).

reality is. the answer is inside.


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[quote]Icelander said:
What is at the bottom of it?[/quote]

Death anxiety? :flirt:[/quote]


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Re: Trusting the self [Re: nootropic]
    #11395272 - 11/06/09 02:24 AM (8 years, 17 days ago)

your questioning prevents you from finding the answer to the cobweb of your thread


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Re: Trusting the self [Re: Realized]
    #11395398 - 11/06/09 02:59 AM (8 years, 17 days ago)

If you have no self, then there is no reason to try to trust it.  GO WITH THE FLOW.  IT IS WHAT YOU ARE.


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Re: Trusting the self [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #11395525 - 11/06/09 03:38 AM (8 years, 17 days ago)

i've asked the same thing. still looking for a good answer.


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Re: Trusting the self [Re: showme]
    #11396063 - 11/06/09 08:42 AM (8 years, 17 days ago)

since everything is this 'self' in the end, it constitutes the only potential source of information about the world, and it is, inherently seperate from the world. so either you concede in ignorance or alternatively be assumptive and assume that your senses and judgements are somehow reliable.


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Re: Trusting the self [Re: Realized]
    #11396067 - 11/06/09 08:44 AM (8 years, 17 days ago)

Quote:

Realized said:
How can I trust myself when I have no self?

What is myself but a system of programing that has been influenced by my environment and my biology, slowly condition overtime. even my attempts to de-programing myself from bias and belief have just been another part of my inevitable programing. How is myself reliable?

Can the heart be trusted? Does the heart even speak?

Is myself the awareness I am experiencing all things through? Is myself only what I am experiencing at this exact moment? My brain? My spirit? The nothing? God?

How can anyone trust themselves knowing this? How is the self a reliable guide?





We just all do our best. That's all one can do.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: Trusting the self [Re: Realized]
    #11396118 - 11/06/09 08:59 AM (8 years, 17 days ago)

You are the Self
Be the Self


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Re: Trusting the self [Re: Icelander]
    #11396161 - 11/06/09 09:08 AM (8 years, 17 days ago)

Agape is all you need.


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Re: Trusting the self [Re: Realized]
    #11396306 - 11/06/09 09:47 AM (8 years, 17 days ago)

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Realized said:
How can I trust myself when I have no self?

What is myself but a system of programing that has been influenced by my environment and my biology, slowly condition overtime. even my attempts to de-programing myself from bias and belief have just been another part of my inevitable programing. How is myself reliable?

Can the heart be trusted? Does the heart even speak?

Is myself the awareness I am experiencing all things through? Is myself only what I am experiencing at this exact moment? My brain? My spirit? The nothing? God?

How can anyone trust themselves knowing this? How is the self a reliable guide?




I think a healthy awareness of our own short comings is a good thing


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