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ID Request - Purple Spore Print: Found in Western Oregon
    #11394650 - 11/06/09 12:19 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

My First ID Request Post...

Unknown Mushroom Details

Semi-General Location of Mushroom: Western Oregon, Central Willamette Valley

Habitat: Long grass & moss. Growing in-between 2 lines of conifer trees. Setting was an open, well-lit area compared to the dark forest
interior next to it.  Found in a cluster. (Photo #1)

Cap: Knobbed, brown on center knob, off-white around outer edge.

Gills: Grey, attached to stem (adnate), crowded spacing (Photo #2)

Stem: Off-white near cap while brownish-orange near bottom. No cap ring/veil. Smooth and not slimy. Solid and fibrous.

Bruising: None that I noticed (Photo #4)

Spore print color: Purple-black (Photo #3)

Here's the photos I took...


(Photo #1 - At Natural Habitat)


(Photo #2 - Close-up of gills)


(Photo #3 - Spore Print: On the cap of the mushroom I'm holding)


(Photo #4 - Post-hunt, at home after handling)

Thanks for any ID's provide. If you need clarification on any details, feel free to ask me and I will pull out the specimens from the freezer and thaw them out for you.

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Re: ID Request - Purple Spore Print: Found in Western Oregon [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #11394781 - 11/06/09 12:44 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Hypholoma fasciculare. Poisonous.


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Re: ID Request - Purple Spore Print: Found in Western Oregon [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #11395448 - 11/06/09 03:16 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks BlimeyGrimey for the ID. :thumbup:

I was hoping this species was a psychoactive mushroom I've never heard of, because it had a purple-black spore print color. I guess assuming that a common characteristic in many psychoactive species like P. Cubenis & P. Baeocystis, (which also has a purple-black spore color) among others, and applying it to mean that all species with purple-dark spores are psychoactive is a bad over-generalization to make.

I knew that blue-bruising was a bad indicator of actives (as some non-active species bruise blue), but now I know that spore print color is another trait that can't be assumed to be related to psychoactivity. Now I know better.

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Re: ID Request - Purple Spore Print: Found in Western Oregon [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #11395613 - 11/06/09 04:11 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Blue bruising is still a very good indicator of actives, provided you know a little bit about mushrooms in general. Most mushrooms that bruise blue are active, but some are not; such as many boletes.

Blue bruising + Purple to black spores = active.


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Re: ID Request - Purple Spore Print: Found in Western Oregon [Re: Twiztidsage]
    #11396073 - 11/06/09 08:47 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

I would say Hypholoma capnoids or  Hypholoma sublateritium. Fasciculare has greenish gills. Where as the mushrooms shown and described here do not.


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Re: ID Request - Purple Spore Print: Found in Western Oregon [Re: lqdtrance]
    #11397531 - 11/06/09 01:53 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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I would say Hypholoma capnoids or  Hypholoma sublateritium. Fasciculare has greenish gills. Where as the mushrooms shown and described here do not.




True, though I have found patches of fasciculare that have green gills while young but change color once they start dropping spores.

Either way, its a Hypholoma and not active.

As twiztid said, "Blue bruising AND purple spores = active".

To add to that I'd say, "Black or purple spores PLUS blue bruising = active".


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Re: ID Request - Purple Spore Print: Found in Western Oregon [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #11398490 - 11/06/09 03:54 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

I've posted it before and I'll post it again:

The Stametsian rule for targeting psilocybin mushrooms

If a gilled mushroom has purplish brown to black spores, and the flesh bruises bluish, the mushroom in question is very likely a psilocybin-producing species.

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