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fl mimosa and mimosa hostillis
    #11390987 - 11/05/09 01:42 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)


                     
                  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!CAN U TELL THE Difference!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: fl mimosa and mimosa hostillis [Re: DEATH666]
    #11391034 - 11/05/09 01:51 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Well I believe the main difference would be that Mimosa Hostilis has thorns... Although you can't really tell from that picture.


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Re: fl mimosa and mimosa hostillis [Re: theMallacht]
    #11391494 - 11/05/09 02:56 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

The Florida mimosa is not in the Mimosa genus but rather in the genus Albizia.

It probably has to do with seed pods, pre-flower structure, and stem structure being different.

That picture you posted resembles the albizia IME, MH stems/bark tends to have more red to them.

Also, I've found that it's quite difficult to get an accurate picture of MH flowers online, so many sites just post images of the albizia or M. Pudica.


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Re: fl mimosa and mimosa hostillis [Re: Cactusdan]
    #11392507 - 11/05/09 05:27 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

didnt i read that a native florida plant that grows everywhere in florida and is a common weed actually contains a decent amount of dmt. think its nick name of the plant is just "common reed" cant remember the scientific name


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Re: fl mimosa and mimosa hostillis [Re: Cactusdan]
    #11392542 - 11/05/09 05:32 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I agree with Dan that the first looks like Albizia, probably A. julibrissin, the species that has become weedy throughout most of the Southern US.  A. julibrissin does not have thorns like M. hostillis, nor is it active, or even a true Mimosa.  As for the second image, it is really too dark and awkwardly taken to tell. I'm confident I could identify physical specimens, but picture IDs are difficult because more often than not they do not demonstrate the subtle identification characteristics.


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Re: fl mimosa and mimosa hostillis [Re: DEATH666]
    #11393279 - 11/05/09 07:06 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

The plant pictured is indeed an Albizia sp, more than likely Albizia julibrissin.


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Re: fl mimosa and mimosa hostillis [Re: karode13]
    #11395689 - 11/06/09 02:47 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Irie,
I thought that Hostilis has elongated white flowers.
Both these look like Albizia.
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Re: fl mimosa and mimosa hostillis [Re: DEATH666]
    #11395863 - 11/06/09 05:03 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I will take the root bark!

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Re: fl mimosa and mimosa hostillis [Re: DarkShaman]
    #11396510 - 11/06/09 08:44 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I'll take your mom's rootbark

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Re: fl mimosa and mimosa hostillis [Re: smurfyshmu]
    #11396539 - 11/06/09 08:49 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

:confused:

Lets keep on topic gents :smirk:


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Re: fl mimosa and mimosa hostillis [Re: Cactusdan]
    #11397624 - 11/06/09 12:05 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Everyone has wishful thinking when it comes to these trees, I thought the same thing when I first heard of M. hostilis because the trees were so abundant in my area.
If you ever see a true M. hostilis, you will know the differences right away, the two look nothing alike.


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Re: fl mimosa and mimosa hostillis [Re: satyr]
    #11403882 - 11/07/09 10:59 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Idont know how to thank you guys, ive been trying to find out if they were the same for i dont know how long.
                              THANK'S


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Re: fl mimosa and mimosa hostillis [Re: DEATH666]
    #11404303 - 11/07/09 11:49 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Irie,
This is a tree that I found on another island, which I highly suspect to be Hostilis.

Had that funky smell around the area too!
Here's both as seedlings.

This is an 8ft tall hostilis.

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Re: fl mimosa and mimosa hostillis [Re: Zaka]
    #11404511 - 11/07/09 12:13 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

By the looks of those flowers, I would also say that that is a Hostilis.


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Re: fl mimosa and mimosa hostillis [Re: Zaka]
    #11404516 - 11/07/09 12:14 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

The leaves dont look right on the first one IMO.

My MH are about 3-4 feet tall and still retain the smaller leaf sets.


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Re: fl mimosa and mimosa hostillis [Re: Cactusdan]
    #11404826 - 11/07/09 01:08 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Irie,
Quote:

Cactusdan said:
The leaves dont look right on the first one IMO.

My MH are about 3-4 feet tall and still retain the smaller leaf sets.



Which one? The one with the flowers? Where these were growing there were also countless different acacias....this looked the closest & the only one with flowers like this.
My MH are one year. Most are around 8-9ft, but I've have them in pots still & they are getting quite root bound. Hopefully I'll get to plant them out at the end of the month.
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Re: fl mimosa and mimosa hostillis [Re: Doctor_Dick]
    #11405776 - 11/07/09 03:41 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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didnt i read that a native florida plant that grows everywhere in florida and is a common weed actually contains a decent amount of dmt. think its nick name of the plant is just "common reed" cant remember the scientific name




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