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A quote for Icelander
    #11389842 - 11/05/09 11:54 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

The more one gets to know of men, the more one values dogs.
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Re: A quote for Icelander [Re: Fraggin]
    #11389886 - 11/05/09 12:02 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I like this quote too


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Re: A quote for Icelander [Re: Fraggin]
    #11389971 - 11/05/09 12:21 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah one of my favorites.

But one thing I have noticed about dogs is the more they have to adjust to this culture. Like us, they become sick.


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Re: A quote for Icelander [Re: Icelander]
    #11389981 - 11/05/09 12:23 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

What do you mean by adjust to this culture?

Dogs are more human than wild animals.


Edited by Lakefingers (11/05/09 12:29 PM)


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Re: A quote for Icelander [Re: Fraggin]
    #11390007 - 11/05/09 12:28 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: A quote for Icelander [Re: Lakefingers]
    #11390054 - 11/05/09 12:39 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Lakefingers said:
What do you mean by adjust to this culture?

Dogs are more human than wild animals.




Yes that's what I'm saying. But dogs used to roam free in the streets. Now they are tied to obese, emotionally unhealthy, owners most all the time. I have really noticed this at the dog parks. Very unhealthy emotional dogs. It's quite yucky.


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Re: A quote for Icelander [Re: Icelander]
    #11390076 - 11/05/09 12:42 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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Yes that's what I'm saying. But dogs used to roam free in the streets. Now they are tied to obese, emotionally unhealthy, owners most all the time. I have really noticed this at the dog parks. Very unhealthy emotional dogs. It's quite yucky.




So true. In India dogs roam the coast or city in packs of about a dozen. They look alright, are keen, actively involved with their surroundings and not just begging around. They know their place amongst people.


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Re: A quote for Icelander [Re: Ahimsa]
    #11390129 - 11/05/09 12:52 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

:thumbup:

Cesar Milan (the dog whisperer) noticed the same in Mexico growing up. He thinks most of us here are insane. And ya know...:satansmoking:


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Re: A quote for Icelander [Re: Icelander]
    #11390161 - 11/05/09 12:56 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

people just don't understand how to live sometimes.

It's awful to see a vibrant pup turn into a neurotic mirror of it's owner.

But if we let dogs roam the streets, then wouldn't that cause all sorts of problems?  Packs of strays, anyone?  I don't think that would work in a country where we are so attached to our mutts.


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Re: A quote for Icelander [Re: Icelander]
    #11390162 - 11/05/09 12:57 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Dogs in america need to learn to appreciate the art of sitting on the lazy boy and eating KFC all day while watching oprah re-runs, or they can take that whiney attitude to the dog pound!


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Re: A quote for Icelander [Re: youbreakyoubuy]
    #11390182 - 11/05/09 01:00 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I have let my dogs run free whenever possible. This IMO has only bettered our attachment.

However you are correct. We can't anymore just let them roam free. 

Too many dog owners that use them for their unmet human emotional needs. Same for children. So I'm just noticing something and not expecting it to improve. Quite the opposite.


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Re: A quote for Icelander [Re: Icelander]
    #11390223 - 11/05/09 01:07 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Yes!  I think my mom just got a dog for that very reason.  She lives alone and needed a companion so she adopted a dog from the shelter.  The problem is that this dog is the type of breed that just wants to wander around all the time.  He's getting out under the fence and runs around the neighborhood while she's freaking out about it.

My mom is ridiculous with animals.  Every dog she's ever owned, that I've met, is just as affectionate with her as she is with them.  But they're all strangely neurotic..... :sherlock:


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Re: A quote for Icelander [Re: Icelander]
    #11390282 - 11/05/09 01:17 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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Now they are tied to obese, emotionally unhealthy, owners most all the time.




You are being a tad hard on yourself. :nono:


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Re: A quote for Icelander [Re: Icelander]
    #11390339 - 11/05/09 01:26 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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Yes that's what I'm saying. But dogs used to roam free in the streets. Now they are tied to obese, emotionally unhealthy, owners most all the time. I have really noticed this at the dog parks. Very unhealthy emotional dogs. It's quite yucky.




would you say it's unnatural for dogs to be tied to their emotionally needy owners in this way??

:tongue:


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Re: A quote for Icelander [Re: yogabunny]
    #11390365 - 11/05/09 01:30 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Obviously not. But unhealthy yes.

Nice try.:wink:


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Edited by Icelander (11/05/09 01:31 PM)


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Re: A quote for Icelander [Re: Icelander]
    #11390379 - 11/05/09 01:34 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

i keed i keed!!!!


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Re: A quote for Icelander [Re: Icelander]
    #11390384 - 11/05/09 01:35 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:
I have let my dogs run free whenever possible. This IMO has only bettered our attachment.

However you are correct. We can't anymore just let them roam free. 

Too many dog owners that use them for their unmet human emotional needs. Same for children. So I'm just noticing something and not expecting it to improve. Quite the opposite.




I agree with your first statement


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Re: A quote for Icelander [Re: Icelander]
    #11390396 - 11/05/09 01:37 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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Yeah one of my favorites.

But one thing I have noticed about dogs is the more they have to adjust to this culture. Like us, they become sick.


:thumbup: It's true, sadly.


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My body I will give to pleasures,
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to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Re: A quote for Icelander [Re: Lion]
    #11390417 - 11/05/09 01:40 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

my mom's jack russell is blind and has diabetes.  she's shoots him up with insulin twice a day.  there is something weird about this to me.


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Re: A quote for Icelander [Re: yogabunny]
    #11390455 - 11/05/09 01:46 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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my mom's jack russell is blind and has diabetes.  she's shoots him up with insulin twice a day.  there is something weird about this to me.




Where do we draw the line between a parasite and a human?


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