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Mushrooms in my garden.
    #11389780 - 11/05/09 11:39 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Habitat:
On a lawn next to a rose bush and a dead lilac bush.

Gills:
None

Stem:
Up to 3 or 4 inches in length, half an inch wide, solid but with a different texture in the centre.

Cap:
Up to 5 inches in diameter, convex.

Spore print color:
None taken.

Bruising:
Yellow.









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Re: Mushrooms in my garden. [Re: elprawn]
    #11389921 - 11/05/09 12:10 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I'm guessing a Cortinarius sp.


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Re: Mushrooms in my garden. [Re: elprawn]
    #11391049 - 11/05/09 03:52 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Agaricus sp.  Check the odor.


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Re: Mushrooms in my garden. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11391169 - 11/05/09 04:06 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Nice pics!  Do I see some pink gills showing through the chew-spots in that first picture?


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Re: Mushrooms in my garden. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11391211 - 11/05/09 04:13 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I am guessing Agaricus arvensis with the obvious yellow staining on the surface.


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Re: Mushrooms in my garden. [Re: Ieponumos]
    #11391668 - 11/05/09 05:17 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm guessing a Cortinarius sp.




If you think that is a Cortinarius then I hope you don't eat self-identified mushrooms. :frown:

It's an agaricus, and that's not a guess.  Probably a horse mushroom.


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Re: Mushrooms in my garden. [Re: Geoff]
    #11391744 - 11/05/09 05:29 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

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I'm guessing a Cortinarius sp.




If you think that is a Cortinarius then I hope you don't eat self-identified mushrooms. :frown:

It's an agaricus, and that's not a guess.  Probably a horse mushroom.




The cracked membrane on the pileus looked kinda fibrous to me. In the sixth pic, the annulus near the stipe looked more like a cortina to my eyes. Please pardon my mistake, I'll look more thoroughly next time. Also please note I did say it was a guess.


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Re: Mushrooms in my garden. [Re: Ieponumos]
    #11392056 - 11/05/09 06:20 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I see the gills showing through. I guess the thing to do is take a spore print of a more fully-opened one (when the gills are showing)?

I thought it might be Agaricus Arvensis (which I've heard are tasty) or perhaps that it might be Agaricus Xanthodermus (which I've heard are not). Am I right i thinking that brown gills rather than pink ones would mean Horse Mushrooms?

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Re: Mushrooms in my garden. [Re: elprawn]
    #11392149 - 11/05/09 06:33 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

They're pink to start with, but the spores are chocolate brown, so they change from pink to brown in age.    Odor is the next key.  Sweet/almond/anise = good!  Phenol/Ammonia/Ink/Chemical = bad.


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Re: Mushrooms in my garden. [Re: ShockValue]
    #11392188 - 11/05/09 06:40 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Since we're on the topic of agaricus, anyone got any suggestions what these are?  No yellow staining, smelled faintly of chlorine...



Found them last week, initially thought they were Agaricus arvensis, but they aren't.  Don't know what they are.


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Re: Mushrooms in my garden. [Re: ShockValue]
    #11392195 - 11/05/09 06:40 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I smelled it but I'm not really getting any distinctive smell from it at all. As far as I can tell it's odourless. Here's a picture I just took. The ring that was covering the gills has started to peel away.



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Re: Mushrooms in my garden. [Re: elprawn]
    #11392209 - 11/05/09 06:41 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Sure it doesn't smell aniseedy?


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Re: Mushrooms in my garden. [Re: Geoff]
    #11392262 - 11/05/09 06:48 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Well I could keep smelling it to try and convince myself otherwise, but I don't actually smell any aniseed. Would I be better off smelling a freshly-picked/unpicked one? This one was picked about 8 hours ago. Though I guess were it starting to decompose the smell would be stronger?


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Re: Mushrooms in my garden. [Re: Geoff]
    #11392287 - 11/05/09 06:52 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Sure it doesn't smell aniseedy?




Horse mushrooms don't usually smell aniseedy- they smell faintly mushroomy. Just like the ones from the grocery store. In my opinion it is definitely an edible agaricus- NOT the Xanthodermus strain because they smell distinctly inky and have a very noticeable chrome yellow stain.

If you're nervous, give it a small nibble first- see how it tastes and how your body reacts. If everything's ok the next day (ie. no gut rot) then EAT IT.


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Re: Mushrooms in my garden. [Re: cameal]
    #11392295 - 11/05/09 06:54 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks!

I'll try mixing them in with my dog's food and see what he thinks :wink:*

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Re: Mushrooms in my garden. [Re: elprawn]
    #11392326 - 11/05/09 06:58 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I was wondering... what's with the bite-marks? Have animals been coming in and taking bites out of these? I'd say it's the wrong time of year for insects.


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Re: Mushrooms in my garden. [Re: elprawn]
    #11392353 - 11/05/09 07:03 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

elprawn, to get a scent, either crush the base of the stem and take a wiff, or get the mushroom wet, then take a wiff...


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Re: Mushrooms in my garden. [Re: elprawn]
    #11392368 - 11/05/09 07:05 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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I was wondering... what's with the bite-marks? Have animals been coming in and taking bites out of these? I'd say it's the wrong time of year for insects.



Slugs love mushrooms and so do squirrels! I've seen a squirrel climb a tree with a giant russula in its mouth- surprising, but sensible, I guess.

Just for a visual aid on A. Xanthodermus check out these links to photos: one, two, three


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Re: Mushrooms in my garden. [Re: caphillkid]
    #11392371 - 11/05/09 07:05 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I crushed the base of the stem and smelled it... smells kinda like poster paint.


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Re: Mushrooms in my garden. [Re: Geoff]
    #11392424 - 11/05/09 07:13 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Geoff said:
Since we're on the topic of agaricus, anyone got any suggestions what these are?  No yellow staining, smelled faintly of chlorine...



Found them last week, initially thought they were Agaricus arvensis, but they aren't.  Don't know what they are.




Geoff: The funky cap reminds me of this photo of an Agaricus Xanthodermus. Did you try cutting it at the base to reveal any inner staining? In your second photo, it looks like there is slight yellow bruising along the cap and stem.

The smell indicates to me that it's not edible. For example, see notes on phenolic odor here.

Try cutting it right in half for a profile perspective like this: Agaricus Xanthodermus


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