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how to fruit this bottle of substrate
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This is my 1st attempt at growing cubensis and i have a bottle of substrate that i want to fruit. I have some questions:



1. Can i fruit it in the bottle (and take off the lid)?
2. Or do i need to change the container?
3. Does it need more air exchange?
2. Do i need to do anything to start the fruiting process eg. adjust the temp?

thanks for your guidance.

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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: yogiprana]
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read on the pf tek. use the search thing in this website

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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: SexiLexi]
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spawn to bulk :grin:


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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: rsinatra13]
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What substrate is that,
and how big is the container?

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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: stonesun]
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stonesun said:
What substrate is that,
and how big is the container?


I was wondering the same thing.


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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: mango man]
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RR's videos answer all the basic questions. search key words that pertain to your questions. the information you want is out there. you dont even have to ask. search and decide.

nice jar BTW

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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: chronosync]
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that looks weird, im interested to know what sub that is also

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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: subiedude]
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hmmm. true. assuming thats pure cubensis mycelium? it does look a little dense.

.... need details.

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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: chronosync]
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Hows that shit going to come out? (saying its PFtek or anything not shaken)


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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: Beelzebozo]
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thanks for the responses.

not sure - its some type of grain, the jar is 750ml.

will not grow out the top if i leave the lid open?

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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: yogiprana]
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It can, your going to want to wrap the sides so light can't get through so you don't have side pinning (or at least decrease the chances). you'll want to pour some water in it to re-hydrate it. I'm not sure if you would want to add some hydrogen peroxide to the water but in my be beneficial since your fruiting it our of a jar. you should case the top bit with normal 50/50 but add some poo or brow rice flour to it to give it a bit of food. I know your not normally spose to do that but who cares.


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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: GintoniK]
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GintoniK said:
nah grains dont have enough nutrients to fruit.
i advise you to READ READ READ !


Actually you can fruit grains directly and you can fruit right out of a jar. It's called "In vitro" or "invitro" fruiting and yes, there's a lot of reading you can do.

There are a few pics of a few great grows, it certainly can be done this way. But you'll probably be happier if you spawn it to a bulk substrate, or at least case it in a tray.


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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: Doc_T]
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break the jar without hurting the mycelium,

spawn to pasturized coir/coffee/vermiculite tray, colonize,case, fruit.

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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: oobajoob]
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If you are spawning, no need to break the jar. :rolleyes:


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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: Doc_T]
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it looks like its rock solid to me...forgot to state that.

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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: oobajoob]
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use a spoon

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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: chronosync]
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I always use a sterile butter knife, always breaks up the substrate nice.

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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: Spencetron]
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nice.

whatever works. right? :thumbup:

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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: chronosync]
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bust up the sub, pour it out in to trays, and fruit. That would be the easiest way after invitro.

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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: scifipirate]
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scifipirate said:
bust up the sub, pour it out in to trays, and fruit. That would be the easiest way after invitro.



Unscrew the cap and leave it alone.


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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: Breakfast Crew]
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Breakfast Crew said:
scifipirate said:
bust up the sub, pour it out in to trays, and fruit. That would be the easiest way after invitro.



Unscrew the cap and leave it alone.


+1

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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: oobajoob]
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That looks too dense. Like bacterial contam dense. Anyone else getting that vibe?  Something just doesn't seem right.

Heh, sorry, not trying to be a debbie downer.


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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: GintoniK]
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GintoniK said:
nah grains dont have enough nutrients to fruit.
i advise you to READ READ READ ! You wont get an answer that satisfies you unless its a mile long :/ good luck


Some confusion here.  Grains have TONS of nutrients.  What hey lack is a capacity to hold any real amount of moisture necessary for fruiting.

While yes, you CAN fruit like that it's a pretty big waste.  I've fruited a couple quart jars like that and got maybe 3 grams dry out of each.    Take those same jars and spawn to bulk and you're talking more like 3 ounces.

I'd highly suggest spawning that big boy to a bulk sub.  Pick up a brick of coco coir at your local pet store - or loot the neighbors horse field for manure.


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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: rsinatra13]
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rsinatra13 said:
spawn to bulk :grin:


Definately :thumbup: I like compost manure....soak 24 hours, strain through pillowcase.  use 1:4 ratio


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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: Leap]
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Leap said:
That looks too dense. Like bacterial contam dense. Anyone else getting that vibe?  Something just doesn't seem right.

Heh, sorry, not trying to be a debbie downer.


hmmmm one way to find out :grin: smell it  :rockon:


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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: rsinatra13]
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I'm with everyone else here, just spoon it out and spawn to some nicely pasteurized coir or straw.  You could do it out of the jar but your output would be far less that way and a waste of some fine looking substrate.

That myc is too awesome to waste, give it the home it deserves and it will probably repay you tenfold.

:cool:

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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: mrEdude]
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I'd break the cheap assed pickel jar WAY before I would take a sppon to it. You guy's talk about giving the "poor" mycelium a good home and then say some sshit like take a spoon to it. Now thats "poor" and now holy fucking blue mycelium


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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: Beelzebozo]
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I wouldn't take a spoon or any other utensil for that matter to break it up. I would suggest to bang it against an aired tire(or something along the line of that. Cloth, carpet, etc. Pretty much break it up) and then spawn to tray. I think if you bang it long enough then it will break up. Then again you don't know what it is. So if your banging a BRF cake then it can't be done. GL on your progress.


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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: Beelzebozo]
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Beelzebozo said:
It can, your going to want to wrap the sides so light can't get through so you don't have side pinning (or at least decrease the chances). you'll want to pour some water in it to re-hydrate it. I'm not sure if you would want to add some hydrogen peroxide to the water but in my be beneficial since your fruiting it our of a jar. you should case the top bit with normal 50/50 but add some poo or brow rice flour to it to give it a bit of food. I know your not normally spose to do that but who cares.


:facepalm:


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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: nastos]
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nastos said:
Beelzebozo said:
It can, your going to want to wrap the sides so light can't get through so you don't have side pinning (or at least decrease the chances). you'll want to pour some water in it to re-hydrate it. I'm not sure if you would want to add some hydrogen peroxide to the water but in my be beneficial since your fruiting it our of a jar. you should case the top bit with normal 50/50 but add some poo or brow rice flour to it to give it a bit of food. I know your not normally spose to do that but who cares.


:facepalm:


Second. :foreheadslap:


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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: Breakfast Crew]
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Like previously stated... Don't fruit directly from the grains.


You can prepare substrate of choice by steam pasteurization at roughly 160F for 1 hour. After your substrate is prepared you can simply add it to your shaken grain jar and continue to shake until the jar is at desired capacity and the substrate is dispersed throughout the jar.

Let colonize and consolidate and fruit normally in any terrarium you wish. I prefer a shotgun or greenhouse for small grows like jar culture.

Also, if you would like to avoid side pinning like previously stated, a trash bag wrapped around the jar will aid you.




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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: Breakfast Crew]
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Breakfast Crew said:
nastos said:
Beelzebozo said:
It can, your going to want to wrap the sides so light can't get through so you don't have side pinning (or at least decrease the chances). you'll want to pour some water in it to re-hydrate it. I'm not sure if you would want to add some hydrogen peroxide to the water but in my be beneficial since your fruiting it our of a jar. you should case the top bit with normal 50/50 but add some poo or brow rice flour to it to give it a bit of food. I know your not normally spose to do that but who cares.


:facepalm:


Second. :foreheadslap:



You guys don't like to experiment? What the fuck is wrong with throwing ideas out???? The peroxide might be unnessisary, i don't know I've never fruited out of a jar before but what's wrong with casing the top? I think it would be cool. and as far as the nutrients in the casing goes i hear gains don't have enough nutrients to fruit (which i guess is bad info, i don't know who to believe), thus the nutrient casing. "But Beelze that would be a hot bed for contamination." I guess you should make sure that doesn't happen... It's called working in front of a hot oven or a flow hood. And if in the end I'm just crazy and it's a horrible stupid idea don't just use the slap the face icon like you know what the fuck your talking about. Explain why my idea is so stupid it should never be uttered on this forum ever again and just to make sure it's never said again we'll get that dude from the mummy to safe guard us from such a stupid idea. jefferson thought of 1000 ways not to make a lightbulb, impressive. I bet you he found some other cool shit out.

cheers :foreheadslap:


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Edited by Beelzebozo (11/11/09 08:31 AM)

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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: Beelzebozo]
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Beelzebozo said:
jefferson thought of 1000 ways not to make a lightbulb, impressive. I bet you he found some other cool shit out.




Did you really just say that?
:foreheadslap: :foreheadslap: :foreheadslap:


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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: gornyhuy]
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Edison by bad. They both end in "son" and have the same first name


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Re: how to fruit this bottle of substrate [Re: Beelzebozo]
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Beelzebozo said:
Breakfast Crew said:
nastos said:
Beelzebozo said:
It can, your going to want to wrap the sides so light can't get through so you don't have side pinning (or at least decrease the chances). you'll want to pour some water in it to re-hydrate it. I'm not sure if you would want to add some hydrogen peroxide to the water but in my be beneficial since your fruiting it our of a jar. you should case the top bit with normal 50/50 but add some poo or brow rice flour to it to give it a bit of food. I know your not normally spose to do that but who cares.


:facepalm:


Second. :foreheadslap:



You guys don't like to experiment? What the fuck is wrong with throwing ideas out???? The peroxide might be unnessisary, i don't know I've never fruited out of a jar before but what's wrong with casing the top? I think it would be cool. and as far as the nutrients in the casing goes i hear gains don't have enough nutrients to fruit (which i guess is bad info, i don't know who to believe), thus the nutrient casing. "But Beelze that would be a hot bed for contamination." I guess you should make sure that doesn't happen... It's called working in front of a hot oven or a flow hood. And if in the end I'm just crazy and it's a horrible stupid idea don't just use the slap the face icon like you know what the fuck your talking about. Explain why my idea is so stupid it should never be uttered on this forum ever again and just to make sure it's never said again we'll get that dude from the mummy to safe guard us from such a stupid idea. jefferson thought of 1000 ways not to make a lightbulb, impressive. I bet you he found some other cool shit out.

cheers :foreheadslap:


:facepalm:


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