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Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued)
#11387441 - 11/04/09 08:32 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hi so earlier I started a thread stating that Hyphae's Pinning Strategy was full of outdated info but I didn’t give examples in the original post (which I should have). When I got home and saw that folks were a little pissed because I didn’t back myself up, I wrote a quick post saying I’ll be back in a minute to get specific, and then George ‘total joke of a TC’ Castanza shut the thread down like a dickless fascist...Just 5 minutes after I said I’d be right back to explain! But anyway I meant for the discussion to be serious and I’ll now write what I meant to before. Sorry that this wasn’t included in the first post.
And as I said in the original thread, the point is not to disrespect Hyphae or his 5 year-old pinning strategy but my issue is that noobs are constantly being directed to that old thread and many users have a link to it in their signatures. My point is that it is a bad thing to encourage beginners to read for these kinds of reasons:
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hyphae said: We will start with the use of cakes to make casings as most newbies will be starting this way.
These days casing crumbled cakes is ill-advised
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hyphae said: Lets begin with your cakes they need to be incubated at optimum temps (for best results) 82-84 degrees
Not only is this not optimal for cakes but it can be very bad for a tray or bulk tub, which will produce more heat and CO2 depending on its size. It’s now recommended to aim for mid to upper 70s F.
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hyphae said: until colonized fully this means not just the surface but throughout the cake. This will usually happen 3-4 days after the outside has been colonized.
Again we now know that’s not true. The inside is already colonized when all surfaces are visibly colonized.
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hyphae said: after the cakes have been cleaned of all pins/knots (anything that can be wiped off the surface)
Not necessary and especially harmful if fruiting as a cake. A noob could easily misinterpret this as common practice.
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hyphae said: Once the cakes have been crumbled I like to let them sit overnight to recoup so any exposed areas will be covered. I will then place them into a cleaned tray/container.
Bad practice. The mycelium should begin to re-knit itself asap in the same container it will fruit in (and cover that for a few days). Waiting overnight just disrupts the mycelium twice for no good reason.
OKAY... That's just the FIRST paragraph of Hyphae's Pinning Strategy. Let me know if I should continue, the section on overlay is a hoot.
And this strategy is being is recommended to noobs almost daily. That's the issue I was raising. The way we promote something that is outdated to say the least.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: tall dwarf]
#11387504 - 11/04/09 08:40 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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minus the temperature and the overnight parts, i disagree with everything else you stated.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: Citizen13]
#11387533 - 11/04/09 08:44 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I let bulk tubs heat themselves to 82-84 in a styro cooler, works great. Give it a try, you'll see.
Thanks for posting it like this. I don't agree with all that, but I'm glad to see it. You should think about making a full page entry in your journal and linking to that.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: tall dwarf]
#11387555 - 11/04/09 08:47 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Great examples, and I totally agree with some of them (not all). Many of those I had to figure out on my own because of a lack of consensus or the material posted was outdated or simply wrong. Please do go forward.
But the only problem I see with you spending the time is that it won't be as visible as the core posts posted in the FAQ's and linked to throughout the site.
What needs to happen is the FAQ’s and core posts need to be replaced or updated.
Just my
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: Citizen13]
#11387556 - 11/04/09 08:47 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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man i just birthed a shit load of cakes that were colonized on the out side. and a bunch werent fully colonized in the middle.so you should always wait at least 3 or 4 days after.and a bunch of the cakes that werent fully colonized contaminated with the mean green.so your giving some shitty advise to people here.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: Citizen13] 1
#11387563 - 11/04/09 08:48 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Citizen13 said: minus the temperature and the overnight parts, i disagree with everything else you stated.
Yeah I only really agree with the overnight part. The temps he referred to were for incubating cakes, not trays/monos anyway.
Where is all the bad info about the actual pinning process?
Personally, I am beginning to think that consolidation time matters more than casing/not casing.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: dancefloordale]
#11387595 - 11/04/09 08:52 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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dancefloordale said:
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Citizen13 said: minus the temperature and the overnight parts, i disagree with everything else you stated.
Yeah I only really agree with the overnight part. The temps he referred to were for incubating cakes, not trays anyway.
Where is all the bad info about the actual pinning process?
Personally, I am beginning to think that consolidation time matters more than casing/not casing.
Correct. I let my substrates consolidate for 1.5 weeks after 100% colonization. I think my results speak for themselves.(check the sig)
Where is the misinformation about the PINNING strategy?
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: Jitsu]
#11387648 - 11/04/09 08:58 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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It just so happens that when you case, the sub consolidates a little longer, and this could lead to some skewed results. 
Just brainstorming.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: tall dwarf]
#11388577 - 11/05/09 12:15 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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tall dwarf said:and then George �total joke of a TC� Castanza shut the thread down like a dickless fascist..
Now am going to ban you from this forum for flaming and spreading misinformation.
I have a very nice dick, this is pure misinformation.
Oh, and I do like how you put some content into this post, very worthwhile thread.
See ya in a week.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: george castanza]
#11388647 - 11/05/09 12:41 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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george castanza said: tall dwarf said:and then George �total joke of a TC� Castanza shut the thread down like a dickless fascist..
Now am going to ban you from this forum for flaming and spreading misinformation.
I have a very nice dick, this is pure misinformation.
Oh, and I do like how you put some content into this post, very worthwhile thread.
See ya in a week.

i seen this coming when i first read it.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: george castanza]
#11388660 - 11/05/09 12:44 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm glad that this thread was continued, but it's unfortunate that the op had to get banned. That's what you get for disrespecting someone with power. It is deserved I suppose though, both the banning and the insults.
I do agree with some of the things you said tall dwarf. Like others said though, only some. The overnight thing and temps in particular. Everything else you have a problem with I think is indeed probably in fact pretty accurate information. I would like to hear your opinion of the rest of the tek though, you do make some valid points. Hopefully you won't get banned again for doing so, hah.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: george castanza]
#11388662 - 11/05/09 12:45 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: Roadkill]
#11388723 - 11/05/09 01:03 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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These days casing crumbled cakes is ill-advised
cakes, if crumbled finely with a cheese grater, make for great spawn. many inoculation points for subs like coir/verm.
cant argue with results.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: tall dwarf]
#11388728 - 11/05/09 01:04 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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oh and by the way...
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tall dwarf said:
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hyphae said:
Lets begin with your cakes they need to be incubated at optimum temps (for best results) 82-84 degrees
Not only is this not optimal for cakes but it can be very bad for a tray or bulk tub, which will produce more heat and CO2 depending on its size. It?s now recommended to aim for mid to upper 70s F.
81 degrees F. is the optimal temp for colonizing cakes. <--key word "Cakes"
so you are spreading misinformation yourself.
other substrates and bulk substrates colonize better at room temp...
but not PF Cakes.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: Roadkill]
#11391357 - 11/05/09 02:34 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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uh...yeah so anyway, It’s really sad that I was banned. Georgie-boy pretty much proved the 'dickless fascist' thing in one stroke. So much for renewing my supporter subscription and strictly buying from sponsers. This place has lost my support. When the Shroomery moves its headquarters out of Iran then I'll reconsider.
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Roadkill said:oh and by the way...
81 degrees F. is the optimal temp for colonizing cakes. so you are spreading misinformation yourself.
Well I’m sticking with upper 70s for cakes but regardless, that’s just one out of 5 things that I found worth questioning in the first 9 sentences of Hyphae’s Pinning Strategy. If you are agreeing with me on the other 4 points (or even 2 or 3…) then you are admitting that there are 4 inaccurate statements in the first 9 sentences of the document. I know some of those examples were a little knit-picky but in the original thread people were on my ass to provide evidence for my argument so I just started from the beginning.
For those people who say they only agree with me on “temp” and “overnight” points, are you saying that it is advisable these days for a noob to straight case a crumbled cake? Are you saying that a cake is not colonized on the inside when it looks colonized on the outside? And are you saying that it is necessary to scrape off all knots and pins and “anything that can be scraped off the surface” of a cake before crumbling? If that’s what you’re saying then be clear. It would be nice to have a REAL debate about the quality and relevance of Hyphae's Pinning Strategy to us in Nov 2009. Unless I get banned again by one of the trolling mods, maybe we can finally do it!
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: tall dwarf 2]
#11391419 - 11/05/09 02:45 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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couldnt you just solve this by rewriting the tek with what you think is more current and updated info and then post that.
tall dwarf tek the revised strategy.
that would be less hostile and more constructive than flaming others provoked or not.
update dont hate. 

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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11391451 - 11/05/09 02:49 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think an update is a great idea. But shouldn't it be Hyphae to update his own material? I'm not so sure about the ethics of re-writing someone else's tek.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: george castanza]
#11391461 - 11/05/09 02:51 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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george castanza said: tall dwarf said:and then George �total joke of a TC� Castanza shut the thread down like a dickless fascist..
Now am going to ban you from this forum for flaming and spreading misinformation.
I have a very nice dick, this is pure misinformation.
Oh, and I do like how you put some content into this post, very worthwhile thread.
See ya in a week.

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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: tall dwarf 2]
#11391465 - 11/05/09 02:52 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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tall dwarf 2 said: I think an update is a great idea. But shouldn't it be Hyphae to update his own material? I'm not so sure about the ethics of re-writing someone else's tek.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: tall dwarf 2]
#11391505 - 11/05/09 02:57 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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tall dwarf 2 said: I think an update is a great idea. But shouldn't it be Hyphae to update his own material? I'm not so sure about the ethics of re-writing someone else's tek.
its been done to stamets' TMC a billion times over by people posting growlogs and changing the teks to fit their needs. its the same as re-writing with updated info.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: tall dwarf 2]
#11391568 - 11/05/09 03:04 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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tall dwarf 2 said: uh...yeah so anyway, It�s really sad that I was banned. Georgie-boy pretty much proved the 'dickless fascist' thing in one stroke. So much for renewing my supporter subscription and strictly buying from sponsers. This place has lost my support. When the Shroomery moves its headquarters out of Iran then I'll reconsider.
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Roadkill said:oh and by the way...
81 degrees F. is the optimal temp for colonizing cakes. so you are spreading misinformation yourself.
Well I�m sticking with upper 70s for cakes but regardless, that�s just one out of 5 things that I found worth questioning in the first 9 sentences of Hyphae�s Pinning Strategy. If you are agreeing with me on the other 4 points (or even 2 or 3�) then you are admitting that there are 4 inaccurate statements in the first 9 sentences of the document. I know some of those examples were a little knit-picky but in the original thread people were on my ass to provide evidence for my argument so I just started from the beginning.
For those people who say they only agree with me on �temp� and �overnight� points, are you saying that it is advisable these days for a noob to straight case a crumbled cake? Are you saying that a cake is not colonized on the inside when it looks colonized on the outside? And are you saying that it is necessary to scrape off all knots and pins and �anything that can be scraped off the surface� of a cake before crumbling? If that�s what you�re saying then be clear. It would be nice to have a REAL debate about the quality and relevance of Hyphae's Pinning Strategy to us in Nov 2009. Unless I get banned again by one of the trolling mods, maybe we can finally do it!
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: Citizen13]
#11391590 - 11/05/09 03:07 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Herbal Elixers Puppet Strategy
1. Do not add a "2" to your old name

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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: Herbal_Elixer]
#11391601 - 11/05/09 03:09 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Im pretty sure your allowed a mush cult puppet for posting grows to keep your ID a lil more secure 
I know several others that have a diff screen name that they post in mush cult with.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11391602 - 11/05/09 03:09 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Who is this Tall Dumb-ass, what is the point of knocking a good tek that is FIVE YEARS OLD. Hyphae has done more good for this site than this Tall Douche will ever do. Fuck you Tall Dumbass Douche Dwarf...... CH goto HELL
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: tall dwarf 2]
#11391603 - 11/05/09 03:09 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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tall dwarf 2 said: uh...yeah so anyway, It�s really sad that I was banned. Georgie-boy pretty much proved the 'dickless fascist' thing in one stroke. So much for renewing my supporter subscription and strictly buying from sponsers. This place has lost my support. When the Shroomery moves its headquarters out of Iran then I'll reconsider.
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Roadkill said:oh and by the way...
81 degrees F. is the optimal temp for colonizing cakes. so you are spreading misinformation yourself.
Well I�m sticking with upper 70s for cakes but regardless, that�s just one out of 5 things that I found worth questioning in the first 9 sentences of Hyphae�s Pinning Strategy. If you are agreeing with me on the other 4 points (or even 2 or 3�) then you are admitting that there are 4 inaccurate statements in the first 9 sentences of the document. I know some of those examples were a little knit-picky but in the original thread people were on my ass to provide evidence for my argument so I just started from the beginning.
For those people who say they only agree with me on �temp� and �overnight� points, are you saying that it is advisable these days for a noob to straight case a crumbled cake? Are you saying that a cake is not colonized on the inside when it looks colonized on the outside? And are you saying that it is necessary to scrape off all knots and pins and �anything that can be scraped off the surface� of a cake before crumbling? If that�s what you�re saying then be clear. It would be nice to have a REAL debate about the quality and relevance of Hyphae's Pinning Strategy to us in Nov 2009. Unless I get banned again by one of the trolling mods, maybe we can finally do it!
Dude, wtf?
Who cares about all of the irrelevant info? Again I ask you, where is the bad pinning strategy?
The introductory info was believed to be correct at the time, however, I think the actual pinning process he discusses still holds water.
Now give up, move on, find another TC to pick on.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: Herbal_Elixer]
#11391616 - 11/05/09 03:10 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Herbal_Elixer said: Herbal Elixers Puppet Strategy
1. Do not add a "2" to your old name

- end strategy-
thats too complicated man. can you shorten that up a little?
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: Citizen13]
#11391629 - 11/05/09 03:12 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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No.. it will remain the same for 5 years
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11391638 - 11/05/09 03:13 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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13shrooms said: Im pretty sure your allowed a mush cult puppet for posting grows to keep your ID a lil more secure 
I know several others that have a diff screen name that they post in mush cult with.
this wasn't his intention.. his first puppet post was mocking being banned... he should follow my strategy
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: Herbal_Elixer]
#11391688 - 11/05/09 03:21 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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right but you guys are acting like jackal's, he wasnt doing wrong at first, he criticized a TCs old info. not that big of a deal. 
if you dont agree, just state that and thats it, you guys find 1 thing and jump his shit over and over like you got nothing better to do.

just hide the thread if you dont like it that much. or better yet quit posting in it your just feeding the fire by pokin at him for every lil thing. not much help at all.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11391722 - 11/05/09 03:25 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I only jackal at puppets.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: Herbal_Elixer]
#11391742 - 11/05/09 03:29 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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only thing i do for a pinning strategy is stick it in the natural day light. works everytime. not much more to it.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: Herbal_Elixer]
#11391823 - 11/05/09 03:43 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have a very nice dick, this is pure misinformation.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: Epilson Lyrae]
#11391835 - 11/05/09 03:46 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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gngsteroflove said:
Quote:
george castanza said:
I have a very nice dick, this is pure misinformation.
PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!!!!!

Please DON'T!!! I believe you!
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: stonesun]
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: badman]
#11392059 - 11/05/09 04:20 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Okay so this all turned into a bunch of bullshit so I'll just bow out now, but I still have a point even if you pricks don't see it.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: tall dwarf 2]
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: eatyualive]
#11392314 - 11/05/09 04:56 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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tall dwarf 2 said: Okay so this all turned into a bunch of bullshit so I'll just bow out now, but I still have a point even if you pricks don't see it.
Either way, its such a minor issue.
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eatyualive said: only thing i do for a pinning strategy is stick it in the natural day light. works everytime. not much more to it.
This is all you need!!
I still think you getting a ban was a wee bit harsh and a slightly Hitlery but Im not 'The Man' Im just a badman.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: badman]
#11392551 - 11/05/09 05:33 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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badman said: I still think you getting a ban was a wee bit harsh and a slightly Hitlery but Im not 'The Man' Im just a badman.
Yeah, banning him for petty insults is pretty stupid.
But this guy did need to get banned. He was a total prick to a noob asking a simple question, so Nastos gave him a rating of zero shrooms. So this dude gave Nastos a zero shroom trade rating as revenge. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: anonjon]
#11392586 - 11/05/09 05:40 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: Roadkill]
#11393059 - 11/05/09 06:37 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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eatyualive said: only thing i do for a pinning strategy is stick it in the natural day light. works everytime. not much more to it.
With the addition of having proper moisture levels and lots of fae, there is little more that you can do to give our friends every chance to perform.
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badman said: I still think you getting a ban was a wee bit harsh and a slightly Hitlery but Im not 'The Man' Im just a badman.
Yeah, banning him for petty insults is pretty stupid.
But this guy did need to get banned. He was a total prick to a noob asking a simple question, so Nastos gave him a rating of zero shrooms. So this dude gave Nastos a zero shroom trade rating as revenge. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Those of you that are long time lurkers/members know that I am usually lax when it comes to enforcing the rules (with the exception of non-vendor links).
Tossing petty insults to someone who can ban you is what I would call trolling, lets just hope that he got what he was after.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: george castanza]
#11393104 - 11/05/09 06:43 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I expect you gave him a warning or a friendly word via PM?
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: badman]
#11393835 - 11/05/09 08:26 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hah, this thread sure got absurd while I was gone. Lame shit.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: george castanza]
#11415226 - 11/08/09 11:00 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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george castanza said: Tossing petty insults to someone who can ban you is what I would call trolling, lets just hope that he got what he was after.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: tall dwarf]
#11621775 - 12/10/09 06:47 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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tall dwarf said: Hi so earlier I started a thread stating that Hyphae's Pinning Strategy was full of outdated info but I didn’t give examples in the original post (which I should have). When I got home and saw that folks were a little pissed because I didn’t back myself up, I wrote a quick post saying I’ll be back in a minute to get specific, and then George ‘total joke of a TC’ Castanza shut the thread down like a dickless fascist...Just 5 minutes after I said I’d be right back to explain! But anyway I meant for the discussion to be serious and I’ll now write what I meant to before. Sorry that this wasn’t included in the first post.
And as I said in the original thread, the point is not to disrespect Hyphae or his 5 year-old pinning strategy but my issue is that noobs are constantly being directed to that old thread and many users have a link to it in their signatures. My point is that it is a bad thing to encourage beginners to read for these kinds of reasons:
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hyphae said: We will start with the use of cakes to make casings as most newbies will be starting this way.
These days casing crumbled cakes is ill-advised
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hyphae said: Lets begin with your cakes they need to be incubated at optimum temps (for best results) 82-84 degrees
Not only is this not optimal for cakes but it can be very bad for a tray or bulk tub, which will produce more heat and CO2 depending on its size. It’s now recommended to aim for mid to upper 70s F.
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hyphae said: until colonized fully this means not just the surface but throughout the cake. This will usually happen 3-4 days after the outside has been colonized.
Again we now know that’s not true. The inside is already colonized when all surfaces are visibly colonized.
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hyphae said: after the cakes have been cleaned of all pins/knots (anything that can be wiped off the surface)
Not necessary and especially harmful if fruiting as a cake. A noob could easily misinterpret this as common practice.
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hyphae said: Once the cakes have been crumbled I like to let them sit overnight to recoup so any exposed areas will be covered. I will then place them into a cleaned tray/container.
Bad practice. The mycelium should begin to re-knit itself asap in the same container it will fruit in (and cover that for a few days). Waiting overnight just disrupts the mycelium twice for no good reason.
OKAY... That's just the FIRST paragraph of Hyphae's Pinning Strategy. Let me know if I should continue, the section on overlay is a hoot.
And this strategy is being is recommended to noobs almost daily. That's the issue I was raising. The way we promote something that is outdated to say the least.
It was brought to my attention so I will address these immediate statements. First I would like to say this thread has brought much success to thousands of newbies and that's what it is all about!
Most newbies will start with cakes as this is the best way to almost guarantee success and future spores to work with. What better way to get your feet wet than to make a few extra cakes and use them for a real basic casing, makes mycosense to me.
Ok the recommendation of 82-84 is based on core temps this is how any substrate should be measured to assure optimum temps in ANY substrate. Now most everything grows faster at warmer temps now 81F has been shown to provide the best overall growth without giving contams an upperhand so this could be revised.
Cakes are not always fully colonized ESPECIALLY if you follow PFTek to the letter inoculating toward the sides of the jars.
Cleaning cakes prior to birth will give almost 100% of the time a more even pinset when they do pin which in many cases means more prolific flushes.
Letting myc recover overnight is good practice as this is an excellent way to determine if contams are present. Also it never hurts to let broken exposed grains because of shaking to be colonized to assure no contams can get a foothold.
This is one reason I haven't been around but I must say to all those who have stood up and backed this strategy thank you this may be a reason for me to come back! There are reasons for everything just because one can not see does not invalidate anything until all voices are heard. Again thank you all and much respects!!!
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: hyphae]
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11621942 - 12/10/09 08:00 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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13shrooms said: right but you guys are acting like jackal's, he wasnt doing wrong at first, he criticized a TCs old info. not that big of a deal. 
if you dont agree, just state that and thats it, you guys find 1 thing and jump his shit over and over like you got nothing better to do.

just hide the thread if you dont like it that much. or better yet quit posting in it your just feeding the fire by pokin at him for every lil thing. not much help at all.
i agree. i thought GC banning him was bad for everyone.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: stalk_of_fennel]
#11622238 - 12/10/09 09:30 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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he was only banned for a week. not a big deal.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: prismism]
#11622307 - 12/10/09 09:50 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Good to see you Hyphae!!!
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: CH HELL]
#11622430 - 12/10/09 10:17 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Things change rapidly in this hobby but many of the basic principles still remain as true as ever. And at the risk of sounding like a kiss ass, I have to say that the pinning strategy helped me greatly when I started this hobby. Just my .02.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: Epilson Lyrae]
#11622470 - 12/10/09 10:25 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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with p. cubensis i dont think you even need a pinning strategy. all i do is place my monotubs into light and they fruit when they are ready.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: prismism]
#11622551 - 12/10/09 10:40 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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prismism said: with p. cubensis i dont think you even need a pinning strategy. all i do is place my monotubs into light and they fruit when they are ready.
Exactly!!
I mean, I inject spores into my veins on the regs and my shit grows cubes.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: prismism]
#11622552 - 12/10/09 10:40 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Can I go off topic here and ask about second flush pinning after the dunk? Do you find that it takes several days to a week to see the subsequent pinning? Much like when you first introduce them to fruiting conditions initially?
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: Epilson Lyrae]
#11622743 - 12/10/09 11:26 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I find that the cakes pin quicker after the first flush. Not too much quicker but mayb a day or two.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: Dbb5]
#11622779 - 12/10/09 11:32 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I apologize for not seeing this thread last month. I was working nearly around the clock on my mushroom farm and this slipped through the cracks. Hyphae's pinning strategy is sound. The basic tenets of fresh air, light, and misting daily are proved pinning triggers.
While we may have found minor things to fine-tune performance such as temperatures as we've learned more, it doesn't denigrate earlier work that we've all built on. It sounds like the original poster had an axe to grind and George was right to ban him. RR
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: RogerRabbit]
#11623325 - 12/10/09 01:16 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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This thread was never even about the actual pinning process. He was just finding other little things to nit-pick at. Always good to see older members, especially TC's post again.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: RogerRabbit]
#11664100 - 12/16/09 06:25 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: While we may have found minor things to fine-tune performance such as temperatures as we've learned more, it doesn't denigrate earlier work that we've all built on. It sounds like the original poster had an axe to grind and George was right to ban him. RR
Hi guys so I just logged in for the first time in a while (the 2 week ban was actually a blessing in disguise!) but I can't read everything right now. Hyphae, I appreciate you chiming in!, I hav en't really read what you wrote yet but I will. I logged in to check some other stuff out so let me get back to all this.
but i gotta say i'm incredibly dissapointed by that RR comment that I have some sort of axe to grind with George C. Rubbish. I actually think he's hysterical. A clown, but hysterical. I thought the 2 week ban was harsh though. It shocked me actuallty. I made me think that everyone around here is so hung up on growing cubensis that no one is actually eating it!! but anyway listen, let me check some other shit out. ...i'm now actually late for some shit... ok guys but i promise to read everything!!! -J
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: tall dwarf]
#11664248 - 12/16/09 06:45 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: While we may have found minor things to fine-tune performance such as temperatures as we've learned more, it doesn't denigrate earlier work that we've all built on. It sounds like the original poster had an axe to grind and George was right to ban him. RR
Hi guys so I just logged in for the first time in a while (the 2 week ban was actually a blessing in disguise!) but I can't read everything right now. Hyphae, I appreciate you chiming in!, I hav en't really read what you wrote yet but I will. I logged in to check some other stuff out so let me get back to all this.
but i gotta say i'm incredibly dissapointed by that RR comment that I have some sort of axe to grind with George C. Rubbish. I actually think he's hysterical. A clown, but hysterical. I thought the 2 week ban was harsh though. It shocked me actuallty. I made me think that everyone around here is so hung up on growing cubensis that no one is actually eating it!! but anyway listen, let me check some other shit out. ...i'm now actually late for some shit... ok guys but i promise to read everything!!! -J
Let me sum it up / paraphrase for you. We think you're a turd and wish you were banned permanently.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: anonjon]
#11664259 - 12/16/09 06:46 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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second that
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: feelfunny]
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: cowfodder]
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: anonjon]
#11664290 - 12/16/09 06:50 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: stonesun]
#11664356 - 12/16/09 06:58 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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its starting to look unanimous
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: feelfunny]
#11667324 - 12/17/09 10:02 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Awesome. I'm gone for 6 weeks and within an hour you guys are here to pounce on me. Even is this circus of angry kids who get no pussy this is pretty sad.
And for the guy who asked there was no warning or anything like that. All I did was call a guy a "dickless facist" for doing this: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11385832#11385832 George was the one doing the baiting.
Next thing I know I'm banned. And the reason I get from Georgie is:
"Ban details: Flaming and spreading misinformation. Say whatever you want about my cult advice. When you talk about my penis you have crossed the line."
And I thought it was damn funny! So I thought I'd go along with the joke and suggested that he had a condition called "micropenis" and next thing I know I'm banned for an extra week. And look I still don't even understand what the infraction was. I called a guy a fascist, is that so fuckin bad? I see far worse insults on these boards daily, even in this thread.
Moral of the story, I come in peace and if this can happen to me it can happen to any of you, trust me.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: tall dwarf]
#11667375 - 12/17/09 10:14 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: badman]
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micropenis
Moral of the story people are sheep.
baaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh
leave this guy alone...he was just trying to give his opinion...whats wrong with that
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badman said:
micropenis
Moral of the story people are sheep.
baaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh
leave this guy alone...he was just trying to give his opinion...whats wrong with that
yeah I agree with that, not that he have the good attidude, but its true that its original intention are not that worst.
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micropenis
Moral of the story people are sheep.
baaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh
leave this guy alone...he was just trying to give his opinion...whats wrong with that
yeah I agree with that, not that he have the good attidude, but its true that its original intention are not that worst.
agreed...he didnt go about it the best way...but still he shouldnt get flamed cause he thinks a tek has some outdated information in it that probably needs to be updated..
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: joska87]
#11669458 - 12/17/09 03:57 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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No. That's not it. This guy's name used to be golden student. He gave Nastos a trade rating of zero because Nastos called him out for be a dick to a noob. Giving a fake trade rating is pretty low.
It has nothing to do with this retarded thread. Although this thread is pretty indicative of his personality.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: joska87]
#11669478 - 12/17/09 04:00 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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i just think it's common sense not to talk about a mod's penis in a derogatory manner.
i'm sure if you called him a huge-dicked sex god of a facist, he wouldn't have banned you.
all in all, i still don't agree that hyphae's pinning strategy is faulty, and i think that tall dwarf should eat more mushrooms and lose some of that ego he has.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: Citizen13]
#11669652 - 12/17/09 04:21 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Citizen13 said: i just think it's common sense not to talk about a mod's penis in a derogatory manner.
i'm sure if you called him a huge-dicked sex god of a facist, he wouldn't have banned you.
all in all, i still don't agree that hyphae's pinning strategy is faulty, and i think that tall dwarf should eat more mushrooms and lose some of that ego he has.

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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: dancefloordale]
#11670198 - 12/17/09 05:23 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: anonjon]
#11670867 - 12/17/09 06:57 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: joska87]
#11671099 - 12/17/09 07:35 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wow, this has gotten way out of hand...
every tek on this website is flawed, the fact that its pointed out makes this place that much better.
Hyphae's Pinning strategy = Evaporation...
do it how u want, your still evaporating to get pins...
Why is this thread being used to debate whether a mod abused their powers or not. Or whatever.
HELLO! this is Cultivation!
and i love it when people challenge mods, it makes em rethink. and thatll only make the teks better!
I hate flamers.... this is an online community, back off we're all friends here.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: boomsaway]
#11671124 - 12/17/09 07:39 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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boomsaway said: back off we're all friends here.
on the contrary,i'm pretty sure we aren't.
there are plenty of people that post here that i can't stand one bit, regardless of their knowledge.
shroomery is a crossection of the world. the world is not friendly.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: Citizen13]
#11671144 - 12/17/09 07:41 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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boomsaway said: back off we're all friends here.
on the contrary,i'm pretty sure we aren't.
there are plenty of people that post here that i can't stand one bit, regardless of their knowledge.
shroomery is a crossection of the world. the world is not friendly.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: anonjon]
#11671274 - 12/17/09 08:01 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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shroomery is a crossection of the world. the world is not friendly.
but it should be and its not because of that attitude shared by you and other misinformed people...
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11671301 - 12/17/09 08:06 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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shroomery is a crossection of the world. the world is not friendly.
but it should be and its not because of that attitude shared by you and other misinformed people...
have you gone outside lately?
call me a pessimist, but I'd call myself a realist.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: Citizen13]
#11671387 - 12/17/09 08:17 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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just because you accept fucktardnedness doesnt mean the rest of us should just cuz its already there. you have to make changes to get changes (by not excepting the bad ones).
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11671405 - 12/17/09 08:19 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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if anyone tells me i'm a dickless facist, i assure you that saying "peace dude.." is not going to better the world/shroomery.
making that person go away, on the other hand, will.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11671433 - 12/17/09 08:23 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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(to the fools) listen fools, anyone who regularly experiences and appreciates psilycibin wouldn't bitch about stupid shit like little bitches, so you can just fuck off. the end.
(to everyone else) i luvya!
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: tall dwarf]
#11671444 - 12/17/09 08:25 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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tall dwarf said: (to the fools) listen fools, anyone who regularly experiences and appreciates psilycibin wouldn't bitch about stupid shit like little bitches, so you can just fuck off. the end.
(to everyone else) i luvya!
I assume those referred to include yourself, because you are in fact bitching in this post. We abhor you.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: tall dwarf]
#11671447 - 12/17/09 08:26 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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tall dwarf said: (to the fools) listen fools, anyone who regularly experiences and appreciates psilycibin wouldn't bitch about stupid shit like little bitches, so you can just fuck off. the end.
(to everyone else) i luvya!
anyone that regularly experiences and appreciates psilocybin wouldn't flame people like you do.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: Citizen13]
#11671451 - 12/17/09 08:27 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Citizen13 said: if anyone tells me i'm a dickless facist, i assure you that saying "peace dude.." is not going to better the world/shroomery.
making that person go away, on the other hand, will.
Im no hippie by far and that wasnt my attempt at peace dude thats this one 
= P.L.U.R. peace love unity RESPECT
fyi
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11671467 - 12/17/09 08:30 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ah i wasn't reffering to the peace sign.
PLUR is a great concept, but turning the other cheek can be taken overboard, and can actually be detrimental in the long run. being realistic about the world and aggresivley condemming ignorance and general "fucktardness" is a strong way to achieve change..as long as you don't drop to childish insults and violence.
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: Citizen13]
#11671473 - 12/17/09 08:32 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11671477 - 12/17/09 08:33 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11671492 - 12/17/09 08:36 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Some peoples attitudes really make me laugh on this site. In the real world, face to face, I'm sure half this shit would happen. It's because we are all shielded by anonymity that people say whatever is on their mind to get a response (from both sides). I have read many teks and have seen minor things that are considered inaccurate and have also wondered why they aren't being updated or edited with a disclaimer. (Such minor things as temperature, colonizing in the dark, and other small factors). These things repeatedly throw noobs off, but that still doesn't make the tek invalid or the cultivator wrong. One thing about the shroomery is once one or two people get on a roll, the bandwagon starts and follows. People should cut out the drama (in this forum at least) and stick to cultivating and leave petty attacks alone (this goes for both sides too). Let the facts to do the talking and the results will speak for themselves.

(Not directed at 13, this towards everyone)
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: 13shrooms]
#11671717 - 12/17/09 09:10 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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13shrooms said: just because you accept fucktardnedness doesnt mean the rest of us should just cuz its already there. you have to make changes to get changes (by not excepting the bad ones).
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: tall dwarf]
#11672781 - 12/18/09 12:29 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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tall dwarf said: (to the fools) listen fools, anyone who regularly experiences and appreciates psilycibin wouldn't bitch about stupid shit like little bitches, so you can just fuck off. the end.
(to everyone else) i luvya!
  This is your thread, that was started by you bitching about outdated shit.....WTF someone lock this thread already!!!!
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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - bad advice (continued) [Re: tall dwarf]
#11673003 - 12/18/09 01:34 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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This thread has been closed.
Reason: This thread has turned into a flame fest.
No hard feelings.
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