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Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - full of bad advice and misinformation
    #11382818 - 11/04/09 12:43 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

I'm sure I'll receive some flack for this but who gives a fuck.

I constantly see links to "Hyphae's pinning strategy" in peoples sigs and being recommended to noobs.  Has no one noticed that it contains more bad advice than good advice?  I understand that it is 5 years old but people still promote it as if the information is current and accurate.  And the valuable info that it does contain is just poorly copied from Stamet's 'Basic Pinning Strategy' (TMC p.140-146).

Sorry for this inconvenient truth. :sunny:


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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - full of bad advice and misinformation [Re: tall dwarf]
    #11382874 - 11/04/09 12:53 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

If you are going to post something like this, at least tell us all what advice is wrong and why. Simply saying that it is bad is asinine. I'm not giving you flak or anything but it's like saying "droogs are bad mkay"
Back it up with some great information bro.


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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - full of bad advice and misinformation [Re: Epilson Lyrae]
    #11383014 - 11/04/09 01:19 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Dude ... Your making it sound like its somones fault..., but its only your own...
Im sure that advice i true and work for others and maybe not for some..,
but you should humble the fact that it a learning experience...thats all apart of this hobby-
theres many ways to achieve pinning and its up to you tp figure whaf suits your preference...
Now yes it maybe disappointing if this is your first flush...but why cry about it...considering your aware of the"flak " you recieve mainly for antagonizing the facts with your opinion WITH NO DETAILS in why and what states your opinion....

Besides that- pinning strategy?! I always case -- and simply i just take my time and pat things down evenly... THATS IT... im sure something that simple cannot be botched or complex....For someone to make it sound they were led astray....:bobmarley:


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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - full of bad advice and misinformation [Re: Epilson Lyrae]
    #11383280 - 11/04/09 01:57 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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at least tell us all what advice is wrong and why.



+1 talk about fucking pointless


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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - full of bad advice and misinformation [Re: blackout]
    #11383291 - 11/04/09 01:58 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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gngsteroflove said:
at least tell us all what advice is wrong and why.



+1 talk about fucking pointless




That.


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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - full of bad advice and misinformation [Re: Doc_T]
    #11383316 - 11/04/09 02:01 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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at least tell us all what advice is wrong and why.



+1 talk about fucking pointless




That.



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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - full of bad advice and misinformation [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
    #11383331 - 11/04/09 02:02 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

If you are going to make such a claim then you better explain to everyone what you're talking about. What exactly about the pinning strategy is wrong?

I'm not saying we don't believe you, its just that if you want to clear up misinformation, how about provide some information?


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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - full of bad advice and misinformation [Re: TLW]
    #11383585 - 11/04/09 02:33 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

I don't use his strategy, but this isn't a topic for this forum.

It has nothing to do with mushroom cultivation. Nor does it have any positive/productive foundation behind the OP.

Hyphae is a great cultivator that has been here for a while and should be respected. Maybe talk to him about this in PMs rather than making a post in the forums?


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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - full of bad advice and misinformation [Re: Jitsu]
    #11383650 - 11/04/09 02:42 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

um in a certain pov it does have to do with cultivation, im not taking his side, jus saying that it does have to do with it, thats all


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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - full of bad advice and misinformation [Re: anakin3197]
    #11383700 - 11/04/09 02:50 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Yea I would think that pinning strategies are a part of cult.  I use truskools pinning strategy personally.  So I don't know if there are any innaccuracies in this strategy


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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - full of bad advice and misinformation [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
    #11383734 - 11/04/09 02:54 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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at least tell us all what advice is wrong and why.



+1 talk about fucking pointless




That.



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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - full of bad advice and misinformation [Re: truskool]
    #11383761 - 11/04/09 02:58 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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Yea I would think that pinning strategies are a part of cult.  I use truskools pinning strategy personally.  So I don't know if there are any innaccuracies in this strategy




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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - full of bad advice and misinformation [Re: fordrew]
    #11384057 - 11/04/09 03:38 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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+1 talk about fucking pointless




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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - full of bad advice and misinformation [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
    #11384372 - 11/04/09 04:13 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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gngsteroflove said:
at least tell us all what advice is wrong and why.



+1 talk about fucking pointless




That.



:flamethrow:



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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - full of bad advice and misinformation [Re: Lucienis]
    #11384522 - 11/04/09 04:32 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Wow, great discussion guys.  Congratulations on some seriously intellectual debate.  :nonono:

One thing I did notice that is definitely false is the whole incubating at 82-84 degrees thing.  This has long been accepted to be false, and that room temperature is the ideal incubation temps.

Another thing I've never heard anyone say before and I doubt the factuality of is this statement:

"Now remember your first,second and subsequent flush pins are created in your initial pinset!"

I would think that if you give shitty conditions in your first flush, and perfect conditions in the second flush, that doesn't mean that because your first flush sucked your second one is fucked.

The bit on overlay I think is fairly accurate, and it's good that he's suggesting that people don't scrape casings unless overlayed.

I've never really thought very much of that strategy, especially considering many many people have gotten far far better results with no casing at all, and even contradicting some of the advice that hyphae presents in his strategy.  That doesn't mean his strategy is completely wrong, but it's not the be all end all strategy for getting an amazing pin set. In all fairness though, hyph never claims it to be.  He even states in the write up "This isn't for everyone in every situation just a guideline for some to follow".


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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - full of bad advice and misinformation [Re: libertaire]
    #11385832 - 11/04/09 07:10 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Hey guys, you are right I should have provided examples although I'd think some were obvious.  Let me take my shoes off, feed the cats and turn on the ballgame.  I'll give you several examples in just a minute.  By the way this was no intention of putting down Hyphae, just wondering why we still praise a strategy that clearly contains some outdated info.


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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - full of bad advice and misinformation [Re: tall dwarf]
    #11385888 - 11/04/09 07:17 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Hyphae's Pinning Strategy - full of bad advice and misinformation [Re: tall dwarf]
    #11385900 - 11/04/09 07:19 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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