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Offlinelonestar2004
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Top Democrats say ObamaCare before end of year is highly unlikely.
    #11382179 - 11/04/09 10:20 AM (8 years, 21 days ago)

Top Dems: No Health Care Bill in 2009


Senior Congressional Democrats say reform before end of year is highly unlikely.

Senior Congressional Democrats told ABC News today it is highly unlikely that a health care reform bill will be completed this year, just a week after President Barack Obama declared he was "absolutely confident" he'll be able to sign one by then.

"Getting this done by the by the end of the year is a no-go," a senior Democratic leadership aide told ABC News. Two other key Congressional Democrats also told ABC News the same thing.

This may come as an unwelcome surprise for the White House, where officials from the president on down have repeatedly said the health care bill would be signed into law by the end of the year.

"I am absolutely confident that we are going to get health care done by the end of this year! Obama said Oct. 27 at a fundraiser for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi may still be confident -- and her spokesman Brendan Daly said today, "We are going to get our part done" -- but the reason for the delay can be found in the Senate.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has yet to release the bill he eventually plans to bring to the Senate floor. Reid is still waiting for the Congressional Budget Office to come up with an estimated cost of several possible variations of his bill before deciding which one to introduce in the Senate.

That cost estimate, Democrats tell ABC News, is not expected until next week.

Asked directly by ABC News, "Will you pass health care reform this year?" Reid pointedly did not answer "yes."

Instead, he replied, "We are not going to be bound by any timetables," adding, "We are going to do this as quickly as we can."

The delay is causing some frustration among Reid's fellow Democrats, but Reid said of his colleagues, "They want us to do this the right way, not the fast way."


After Reid made his comments, his spokesman said the goal remains getting a health care bill passed by the end of the year.

"Our goals remain unchanged," Reid spokesman Jim Manley said. "We want to get health insurance reform done this year, and we have unprecedented momentum to achieve that."

The White House has pushed hard to get a bill passed this year, getting it done before the beginning of the Congressional campaign season. But the delay in the Senate will almost certainly push the health care debate into 2010.

The White House has tried to avoid that because passing major legislation in a Congressional election year is considered more difficult.

The best hope, Congressional Democrats now say, is for Democrats to pass Senate and House versions of the health care bill by the end of the year, pushing off House-Senate negotiations for a final bill until January.


http://abcnews.go.com/m/screen?id=8987651&pid=4380645


Zappa doesn't make too many predictions but i remember him saying that Obamacare and cap and trade would not pass even with a Dem controlled House and Senate!


ONE DOWN ONE TO GO!!!!

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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

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Re: Top Democrats say ObamaCare before end of year is highly unlikely. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #11382353 - 11/04/09 11:04 AM (8 years, 21 days ago)

Yesterday's results make it even less likely as Blue dogs are wetting their pants all over the country.  And CD 23 taught Republican bosses that they needn't bother appointing candidates who favor such things as card check.


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Re: Top Democrats say ObamaCare before end of year is highly unlikely. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #11396459 - 11/06/09 10:31 AM (8 years, 19 days ago)

I wonder if the bill will pass the house on Saturday? Pelosi is asking them to vote on it even though it has a good chance failing in the Senate. Now they will be on record of voting for the Obama bill and it may never get passed anyway.

Idiots!:grin:


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama


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Re: Top Democrats say ObamaCare before end of year is highly unlikely. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #11398902 - 11/06/09 04:48 PM (8 years, 19 days ago)

Meanwhile, this  has got to be some kind of record:
http://www.gouverneurtimes.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7623:owens-to-break-campaign-promises&catid=60:st-lawrence-news&Itemid=175

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Owens Breaks 4 Campaign Promises in first hour in Congress
(edit: umm only three it seems.  He changed his mind during the campaign on one}
Mr. Owens also indicated during his campaign that he was firmly opposed to cutting Medicare benefits, taxing health care benefits, and increased taxes on the middle class in any way as you can see clearly in the screenshot below, taken directly from Mr. Owens' campaign website.

The House Health reform bill contains sections that cut Medicare benefits, tax existing health care benefits, and increases taxes on the middle class, yet Mr. Owens stated today that he will now vote in favor of those things contrary to what he had promised the voters of NY's 23rd Congressional District that he would vote against.




My guess is that Mr. Owens will be swept away in 2010.  Those fucking hillbillies may not be able to tell when they are going to get screwed but they sure as shit know when they have been.


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