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just got a dehydrator - is it too hot?!
    #11381079 - 11/04/09 12:11 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

just bought and set up a dehydrator and threw my freshly picked mushrooms in it. this is my first grow, and first time messing with a dehydrator. i noticed it was pretty hot, so i put a thermometer in it and found that it reaches 135 degrees F and seems to slowly get warmer and warmer.

im wondering if this is too hot? will this cause any decrease in potency? i thought i saw someone on here talking about theirs and how they set theirs to 90 degrees. if 90 degrees is enough 135+ might be overkill. should i take the dehydrator back? its hot, but its definitely working...


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Re: just got a dehydrator - is it too hot?! [Re: PilzeEssen]
    #11381092 - 11/04/09 12:15 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

melting point of the actives is 220-228 so you are fine


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Re: just got a dehydrator - is it too hot?! [Re: Slimz]
    #11381102 - 11/04/09 12:17 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

sweeet. thats what i like to hear.

just went and looked. its at 141.7 degrees. so good shit :smile: tiny mushrooms shrink like a motherfucker quick!!


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Re: just got a dehydrator - is it too hot?! [Re: PilzeEssen]
    #11381106 - 11/04/09 12:18 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

boiling water is 212F and that is commonly used to make shroom tea


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Re: just got a dehydrator - is it too hot?! [Re: Slimz]
    #11381127 - 11/04/09 12:25 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

i always wondered about that... i guess i figured the chemicals were a bit more sensitive than that. never made tea myself.


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Re: just got a dehydrator - is it too hot?! [Re: PilzeEssen]
    #11381452 - 11/04/09 01:57 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

oxidation lowers potency not heat.

it would have to be proly 250F + to worry.

dry fast (what your doing) and store air tight with desiccant or silica packs.


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Re: just got a dehydrator - is it too hot?! [Re: 13shrooms]
    #11381479 - 11/04/09 02:15 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

good to know. im storing the dried ones in a pyrex dish with a rubber lid. im going to find some silia packets tomorrow. hopefully a shoe store will hook me up with some if they dont already sell them.

this

turned into this


i have officially grown psilocybin mushrooms!!! im so proud of myself. i have to wait until saturday before testing some of them out.

i have a feeling that theyre gonna be goooood. i havent really tripped on mushrooms for a long time, and these are home grown. nothing can beat these! im so excited lol


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Re: just got a dehydrator - is it too hot?! [Re: PilzeEssen]
    #11381810 - 11/04/09 05:51 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

PilzeEssen said:
just went and looked. its at 141.7 degrees.




What is? Melting point of psilocybin? Is that 141.7C?


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Re: just got a dehydrator - is it too hot?! [Re: Doc_T]
    #11381861 - 11/04/09 06:15 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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PilzeEssen said:
just went and looked. its at 141.7 degrees.




What is? Melting point of psilocybin? Is that 141.7C?





Thats defiantly F bro. I have the same dehydrator... :smile:


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Re: just got a dehydrator - is it too hot?! [Re: Dionili]
    #11381884 - 11/04/09 06:25 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Psilocybin melts at 141.7F, you are saying?

Interesting. Erowid quotes 185-228C, depending on the source of the crystals. That's greater than 350 F.

I don't feel like digging out the Merck Manual or PDF, but I will if I have to.


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Re: just got a dehydrator - is it too hot?! [Re: Doc_T]
    #11381896 - 11/04/09 06:29 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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Psilocybin melts at 141.7F, you are saying?

Interesting. Erowid quotes 185-228C, depending on the source of the crystals. That's greater than 350 F.

I don't feel like digging out the Merck Manual or PDF, but I will if I have to.






I think 141.7f is the temp of his dehydrator. atm.


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Re: just got a dehydrator - is it too hot?! [Re: Dionili]
    #11381909 - 11/04/09 06:35 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Oh. He said 135 in the first post, that's where I got confused.

So you run it that hot? Or put it on a timer? Or what?


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Re: just got a dehydrator - is it too hot?! [Re: Doc_T]
    #11382000 - 11/04/09 07:18 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I was always under the impression that you are not supposed to use heat in your dehydrator.
and i wasted all that time taking the POS apart and taking out that stupid heating element.
oh well.

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Re: just got a dehydrator - is it too hot?! [Re: Mycopial Mother]
    #11382021 - 11/04/09 07:29 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I've been leaving the lid off mine b/c it gets pretty hot also... It says in the directions that mushrooms are supposed to be on a certain setting and on top rack for 12-18 hours. But that's for the hardy grocery store ones I'm sure. Mine are sometimes delicate and they can end up looking like a burnt match stick if done to quick. So I've been fan drying and leaving the lid off for a while or using a timer to get the end product more decent looking.

In Missouri  I bought some that were ,it seemed; done with a freeze dryer. This would rock!!! They looked the same as the day they were picked to me.

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Re: just got a dehydrator - is it too hot?! [Re: Mycopial Mother]
    #11382072 - 11/04/09 07:45 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Mycopial Mother said:
I was always under the impression that you are not supposed to use heat in your dehydrator.
and i wasted all that time taking the POS apart and taking out that stupid heating element.
oh well.




Yeah, it's old info. Experience over the years has shown that it doesn't really matter much. Ordinary dehydrator temps are just fine.


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Re: just got a dehydrator - is it too hot?! [Re: UFOz8MyGoat]
    #11383850 - 11/04/09 01:11 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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UFOz8MyGoat said:
I've been leaving the lid off mine b/c it gets pretty hot also... It says in the directions that mushrooms are supposed to be on a certain setting and on top rack for 12-18 hours. But that's for the hardy grocery store ones I'm sure. Mine are sometimes delicate and they can end up looking like a burnt match stick if done to quick. So I've been fan drying and leaving the lid off for a while or using a timer to get the end product more decent looking.

In Missouri  I bought some that were ,it seemed; done with a freeze dryer. This would rock!!! They looked the same as the day they were picked to me.




how the hell do you freeze dry mushrooms?!


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Re: just got a dehydrator - is it too hot?! [Re: PilzeEssen]
    #11384011 - 11/04/09 01:30 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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how the hell do you freeze dry mushrooms?!




Vacuum pump plus cold trap, right? Isn't that how you'd do it?


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Re: just got a dehydrator - is it too hot?! [Re: Doc_T]
    #11388744 - 11/05/09 01:08 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

yea they make a vacuum while freezing and I read that the end product can be stored for years



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Re: just got a dehydrator - is it too hot?! [Re: UFOz8MyGoat]
    #11388754 - 11/05/09 01:12 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: just got a dehydrator - is it too hot?! [Re: 13shrooms]
    #11388801 - 11/05/09 01:30 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I'm looking for the ghetto desktop economy model myself lmao these bad boys look expensive!!!

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