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Offlineaniel
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    #11380017 - 11/03/09 10:53 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

hi since this is the first time I'm doing the grow i have a few unsolved questions.
I'm using brown rice flour , vermiculite and normal tap water for my cakes.I will then boil my cakes rather than using a pressure cooker, due to money circumstances.
One thing I'm not entirely sure about is how much spore i should inject into a small half pint jar?


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Re: First time grower [Re: aniel]
    #11380055 - 11/03/09 10:58 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

1\2-1 cc per jar.


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Re: First time grower [Re: aniel]
    #11380057 - 11/03/09 10:58 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

about 1/4th a CC in each of the four holes. Search around buddy watch videos, read, and repeat. Don't grow until you know what to do without reference.

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Re: First time grower [Re: aniel]
    #11380061 - 11/03/09 11:00 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

I don't think boiling is good for cakes...using coir in trays or even as a monotub seems much easier and cheaper, imo, than the pftek, and you get much better yields. With coir you can simply put it in a pot of water and heat it to about 160F for a few minutes to pasteurize it and it's ready to go. You can bypass buying jars, verm, brf, and all that. The only useful thing (if you're using trays) that you'll also need is perlite, which you can get at any Lowes or Home Depot.


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Re: First time grower [Re: kydelic]
    #11380069 - 11/03/09 11:02 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

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kydelic said:
I don't think boiling is good for cakes...using coir in trays or even as a monotub seems much easier and cheaper, imo, than the pftek, and you get much better yields. With coir you can simply put it in a pot of water and heat it to about 160F for a few minutes to pasteurize it and it's ready to go. You can bypass buying jars, verm, brf, and all that. The only useful thing (if you're using trays) that you'll also need is perlite, which you can get at any Lowes or Home Depot.




How Could you possibly only use Coir? I've never heard this? Seems like if that was possible everyone would.


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Re: First time grower [Re: kydelic]
    #11380085 - 11/03/09 11:05 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

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I don't think boiling is good for cakes...using coir in trays or even as a monotub seems much easier and cheaper, imo, than the pftek, and you get much better yields. With coir you can simply put it in a pot of water and heat it to about 160F for a few minutes to pasteurize it and it's ready to go. You can bypass buying jars, verm, brf, and all that. The only useful thing (if you're using trays) that you'll also need is perlite, which you can get at any Lowes or Home Depot.




just coir??? what do you use as spawn, dont tell me its possible just to inoculate straight to coir lol, i would assume everyone would if you could......??:confused:


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Re: First time grower [Re: kydelic]
    #11380104 - 11/03/09 11:08 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

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kydelic said:
I don't think boiling is good for cakes...using coir in trays or even as a monotub seems much easier and cheaper, imo, than the pftek, and you get much better yields. With coir you can simply put it in a pot of water and heat it to about 160F for a few minutes to pasteurize it and it's ready to go. You can bypass buying jars, verm, brf, and all that. The only useful thing (if you're using trays) that you'll also need is perlite, which you can get at any Lowes or Home Depot.




the biggest reason that the pf tek is so popular is because you can use steam sterilization.
what are you suggesting you use as spawn?


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Re: First time grower [Re: kydelic]
    #11380123 - 11/03/09 11:11 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

I'm also keen on using the trays but i haven't done as much research firstly i wanted to try it with cakes, would it be better if i afterwards would dunk and roll them?


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Re: First time grower [Re: aniel]
    #11380148 - 11/03/09 11:16 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

I've also done research on boiling and i found out that if using BRF boiling is fine because full sterilization is reached before 190 and boiled water is around 215. So if i leave the cakes it to boil for 90 mins i should be fine.


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Re: First time grower [Re: cdnshroom]
    #11380214 - 11/03/09 11:28 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

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kydelic said:
I don't think boiling is good for cakes...using coir in trays or even as a monotub seems much easier and cheaper, imo, than the pftek, and you get much better yields. With coir you can simply put it in a pot of water and heat it to about 160F for a few minutes to pasteurize it and it's ready to go. You can bypass buying jars, verm, brf, and all that. The only useful thing (if you're using trays) that you'll also need is perlite, which you can get at any Lowes or Home Depot.




just coir??? what do you use as spawn, dont tell me its possible just to inoculate straight to coir lol, i would assume everyone would if you could......??:confused:




it is possable but pointless BRF has more nutision in it so why do it.


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Re: First time grower [Re: feelfunny]
    #11380462 - 11/04/09 12:04 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

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it is possable but pointless BRF has more nutision in it so why do it.




Larger yields, easier and cheaper ingredients.

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what are you suggesting you use as spawn?




Without a PC, a simple spawn bag with WBS or grain is easies, perhaps somewhat expensive, but a 1:3 ratio would I imagine stretch it out.


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Re: First time grower [Re: ENEMY]
    #11380505 - 11/04/09 12:12 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

i read it wrong for some reason i thought he ment in a jar. i use coir and just coir in all my tubs


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Re: First time grower [Re: feelfunny]
    #11380654 - 11/04/09 12:38 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

Watch the mushroomvideos.com videos.  Getting started myself and found these very helpful.


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Re: First time grower [Re: thecheeseismoldy]
    #11381813 - 11/04/09 07:53 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

guys i live in the uk and im having problem finding the right jars any help on this on ??


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Re: First time grower [Re: aniel]
    #11381916 - 11/04/09 08:40 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

Buy them online and have them shipped?  That would be pricey, but it would work.  Do you folks not preserve much food over there?


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Re: First time grower [Re: thecheeseismoldy]
    #11381934 - 11/04/09 08:49 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

Home canning is very much a US thing. Other countries do it, but not like we do.

aneil, there are plastic containers that work well. Member Veda_sticks has done a lot of research into it, so have others.
The search engine will have a lot of info, if you put a little work into it. Start from the Big Search Page: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/search.php
If it has a recycle code, it'll usually say PP5 if it can be used.


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Re: First time grower [Re: thecheeseismoldy]
    #11382065 - 11/04/09 09:44 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

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Watch the mushroomvideos.com videos.  Getting started myself and found these very helpful.




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Re: First time grower [Re: Lancaster]
    #11382095 - 11/04/09 09:55 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

Hey Bud,

Yeah go with the PF Tek when you start but make sure you can do it all without reference to any text or video while you do it.One wrong move could spell disaster for your cakes.Evn though im a beginner i've been reading and researching for the last 6 months and im only starting on cakes now, because guess what thats what everyone starts on, start on the most forgiving tek and work your way up to grain.Thats what the majority of ppl do :smile:

Best of luck!


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Re: First time grower [Re: aniel]
    #11382116 - 11/04/09 10:00 AM (8 years, 18 days ago)

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aniel said:
guys i live in the uk and im having problem finding the right jars any help on this on ??




uk I don't know i use Ace Hardware they ship free to you're local store.


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Re: First time grower [Re: Polk_Audio3]
    #11382751 - 11/04/09 12:29 PM (8 years, 18 days ago)

I'm joining the faction of the site that says starting with pf-tek isn't really that great, and for most people, more expensive than other methods.


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