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Psilocybe cyanescens found in Northern Ireland
    #11374820 - 11/03/09 07:44 AM (8 years, 22 days ago)

After much searching of the internet and not finding answers as to whether this species grows in N. Ireland, it was the real life mushroom hunting which solved the mystery. :grin:

Unfortunately I didn't get any habitat shots as I didn't have my camera, but I grabbed a couple of specimens which just about made it back. They were found growing in a bed of woodchips.





Such an exciting find for me! :mushroom2:


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens found in Northern Ireland [Re: Asht0n]
    #11374835 - 11/03/09 07:49 AM (8 years, 22 days ago)

Awesome find! :awesome:


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens found in Northern Ireland [Re: Asht0n]
    #11374836 - 11/03/09 07:49 AM (8 years, 22 days ago)

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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens found in Northern Ireland [Re: Asht0n]
    #11374859 - 11/03/09 07:58 AM (8 years, 22 days ago)

gorgeous mushrooms... very cool discovery.:thumbup:


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens found in Northern Ireland [Re: Lucas89]
    #11374908 - 11/03/09 08:18 AM (8 years, 22 days ago)

please tell me you took prints! awesome find!


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens found in Northern Ireland [Re: Don Juan]
    #11375258 - 11/03/09 10:27 AM (8 years, 22 days ago)

My question is and has always been, why do psilocybe cyanescens grow in uk in general? It's an introduced species right? because they don't grow in the eastern half of the united stated past the rocky mountains, they have evolved into a completely different species like ovoideocystidiata, because you can clearly see that they come from the same gean pool, like subaeruginascens, septentrionalis, wayanadensis, and azurescens among others, but why are they still the same mushroom on a completely different continent? why have they not split into a separate species?


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens found in Northern Ireland [Re: Purple_spore]
    #11375341 - 11/03/09 10:45 AM (8 years, 22 days ago)

What makes you assume that they have been artificially introduced? IIRC the first reports of P. cyanescens finds in Europe date back to some time in the 40's or 50's. I very much doubt that they've been introduced by a bunch of tripping hippies back then. Also, they literally grow all over Northern, Western and Central Europe. Also, there are many, many mushrooms that grow all around the globe without showing any significant differences between specimen found half a world apart. Why they aren't found on the East Coast of the US, I really don't know.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens found in Northern Ireland [Re: German Kahuna]
    #11375362 - 11/03/09 10:50 AM (8 years, 22 days ago)

Considering the amount of different wood loving Psilocybe species, I guess it can be expected, that they're native to North America. However, I think there's a good chance, that spores were imported by accident (maybe from vacation, or whatnot. There's many different possibilities).

The fact, that most German mushroom guides don't picture the Psilocybe cyanescens (most likely because they're too old), leaves me to believe, that it's indeed not native to Europe, or -at least- Germany.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens found in Northern Ireland [Re: Fahkface]
    #11375419 - 11/03/09 11:01 AM (8 years, 22 days ago)

Yes you remember correctly, cyanescens was first described from Kew Gardens, United Kingdom, by E. M. Wakefield in the 1940s. But to me, the phylogenetics just don't add up. perhaps the climates are so similar that the mushroom never needed to evolve? But that still doesn't explain the diversity of species within the pacific northwest alone. Just different growing mediums forced them to evolve. Just pure speculation on my part not trying to give anything but my opinion.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens found in Northern Ireland [Re: Purple_spore]
    #11375429 - 11/03/09 11:03 AM (8 years, 22 days ago)

Given the predominant climate there, if I was a cold climate mushroom, I'd definitely want to live in the PNW. :smile2:


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens found in Northern Ireland [Re: German Kahuna]
    #11375447 - 11/03/09 11:07 AM (8 years, 22 days ago)

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German Kahuna said:
Given the predominant climate there, if I was a cold climate mushroom, I'd definitely want to live in the PNW. :smile2:




That's probably the answer we were all looking for:hotidea:

BTW: Have the prints arrived yet?


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens found in Northern Ireland [Re: Fahkface]
    #11375450 - 11/03/09 11:09 AM (8 years, 22 days ago)

They arrived today. :yesnod:


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens found in Northern Ireland [Re: German Kahuna]
    #11378571 - 11/03/09 07:12 PM (8 years, 22 days ago)

Thanks for the comments guys. Here is a picture of a spore print, printed on white paper.



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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens found in Northern Ireland [Re: Asht0n]
    #11378585 - 11/03/09 07:14 PM (8 years, 22 days ago)

ohhh wow..... in the UK :grin:  nice find Asht0n :thumbup:


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens found in Northern Ireland [Re: dicky21]
    #11378757 - 11/03/09 07:39 PM (8 years, 22 days ago)

very very nice finds!! persistant hunting almost always pays off!! GReat job bro:thumbup: Do you best to spread you patch the best you can - small pieces of myco wood can be brought almost anywhere - including mason jars at home - -- - just boil good hardwood chips untill they sink - drain for atleast half hour or lil more - then fill up mason jars and place a piece of infected wood inside ----wala- you got more n more to place wherever you like!! Good Luck n Happy Hunting :super:


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens found in Northern Ireland [Re: Asht0n]
    #11378767 - 11/03/09 07:40 PM (8 years, 22 days ago)

Unique finds, well done! :thumbup:


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens found in Northern Ireland [Re: German Kahuna]
    #11378786 - 11/03/09 07:44 PM (8 years, 22 days ago)

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What makes you assume that they have been artificially introduced? IIRC the first reports of P. cyanescens finds in Europe date back to some time in the 40's or 50's. I very much doubt that they've been introduced by a bunch of tripping hippies back then. Also, they literally grow all over Northern, Western and Central Europe. Also, there are many, many mushrooms that grow all around the globe without showing any significant differences between specimen found half a world apart. Why they aren't found on the East Coast of the US, I really don't know.




it's not a question of whether they where introduced intentionally by 'trippy hippies' but whether they where spread from whichever origin, to the other areas they grow by the heavy trade of live plant specimens.

you can see this happening with the friscosa type, and with P. cyenescens proper, the original description was from kew gardens and i believe it was found in cultivated plants like roses.

i don't know, and haven't studied the matter in depth enough to have a strong or educated idea of which continent they originated from, so i won't comment on that.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens found in Northern Ireland [Re: Asht0n]
    #11378955 - 11/03/09 08:15 PM (8 years, 21 days ago)

Great job, this is an interesting post here.


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens found in Northern Ireland [Re: fliped]
    #11380728 - 11/04/09 12:49 AM (8 years, 21 days ago)

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if I was a cold climate mushroom, I'd definitely want to live in the PNW. :smile2:




I will have to 2nd GK's statement:smile:
I think wisconsin or even minnesota- all the adjacent norther states - can successfully have fruiting cyans or azies - i think it may take 2yrs for the patches to bear fruits but with some help on watering and spreading the healthiest spawn you can- these could flourish in the northern states nationwide:thumbup::thumbup:


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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens found in Northern Ireland [Re: sporeRider]
    #11380939 - 11/04/09 01:28 AM (8 years, 21 days ago)

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if I was a cold climate mushroom, I'd definitely want to live in the PNW. :smile2:




I will have to 2nd GK's statement:)
I think wisconsin or even minnesota- all the adjacent norther states - can successfully have fruiting cyans or azies - i think it may take 2yrs for the patches to bear fruits but with some help on watering and spreading the healthiest spawn you can- these could flourish in the northern states nationwide:thumbup::thumbup:




I'm convinced of it!
I don't believe the mushroom chooses it's place to live for topographical reasons, but for climatic ones.
As long as it gets cold and moist enough it seems to be fine.


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