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Whats up with these pins? (update: mutant experts help)
    #11372154 - 11/02/09 07:51 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

This is my first time growing PE, but i've never seen pins like this before. Is this normal? Are they just extremely wide?

This is a quart mixed with compost from High Mountain Compost ( http://www.highmountaincompost.com/index.php ) uncased.

Spores are PE from Spore Works ( http://sporeworks.com/store/catalog/Psilocybe-cubensis--Penis-Envy-p-16174.html )

how do these look?





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Re: Whats up with these pins? This is making me nervous!! [Re: nuk1m]
    #11372201 - 11/02/09 07:58 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Those are mutants. They are just as edible and potent. Wait until they get bigger and harvest them like regular mushrooms. PE is known for creating mutants like those.

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Re: Whats up with these pins? This is making me nervous!! [Re: daytripper05]
    #11372265 - 11/02/09 08:07 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Hm interesting. So they are going to just grow in any random direction huh.. Well it seems all 3 of my casings are going this way so I suppose the spores are to blame then right?


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Re: Whats up with these pins? This is making me nervous!! [Re: nuk1m]
    #11372287 - 11/02/09 08:10 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

very common with PE .. second flush will be fine (normally)


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Re: Whats up with these pins? This is making me nervous!! [Re: nuk1m]
    #11372291 - 11/02/09 08:11 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

check out this thread.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11262541/

It's just genetics. The spore were viable, but this is just the dice roll you got this time. The 2nd might turn out to be regular penis looking mushrooms. Don't be discouraged, everything was done right if you got this far. As soon as you get a good specimen clone it, or do some isolations agar to ensure more normal flushes.

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Re: Whats up with these pins? This is making me nervous!! [Re: daytripper05]
    #11372402 - 11/02/09 08:22 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Hehe those are easier to eat, like gumballs. Grey...chewy...stalky gumballs....

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Re: Whats up with these pins? This is making me nervous!! [Re: Breakfast Crew]
    #11372503 - 11/02/09 08:33 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Right on, yeah I found this thread also http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6565219#6565219

his flush looks a lot like mine. I just hope I get some good weight. I also have a big tub with 4 quarts mixed with compost that should start pinning in a few days, this has the same genetics. I wonder how those are gonna turn out.

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Re: Whats up with these pins? This is making me nervous!! [Re: nuk1m]
    #11372580 - 11/02/09 08:44 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

PE is a scandalous strain!


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Re: Whats up with these pins? This is making me nervous!! [Re: nuk1m]
    #11372721 - 11/02/09 09:03 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

lucky bastard and doesnt even know it lol .... let em grow and harvest with glee they likely to be potent ... your second flush may differ and fruit normally ... if your not worried about yeild then you got a good thing going

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Re: Whats up with these pins? This is making me nervous!! [Re: nuk1m]
    #11372745 - 11/02/09 09:06 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

this has the same genetics. I wonder how those are gonna turn out.



you sure about that ? just because they came from the same syringe dont mean they have the same genes ... unless you isolated it on agar first , or cloned it ( though even that surprisingly doesnt produce pure genes) its not the same

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Re: Whats up with these pins? This is making me nervous!! [Re: cyantific]
    #11373427 - 11/02/09 10:28 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

well actually cyantific yield is very important to me :sad:.. but it still looks like i'll be having a good sized pinset.

well all I ment was the tub came from the same syringe. So far 3 casings have these mutants and they are all from the same syringe so chances are it'll happen with the tub.


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Re: Whats up with these pins? This is making me nervous!! [Re: nuk1m]
    #11373529 - 11/02/09 10:40 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Someone really needs to see if we can get an iso from those mutants.  Do they produce spores?  Are the spores viable?  If you clone one can you get an entire tub of them?  I would love to see these turned into a viable strain.  We could call it P. Cubensis Monkey Nut strain!


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Re: Whats up with these pins? This is making me nervous!! [Re: cowfodder]
    #11373622 - 11/02/09 10:51 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

yous about to have a blast.


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Re: Whats up with these pins? This is making me nervous!! [Re: Somnivore7]
    #11373717 - 11/02/09 11:03 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

some of my friends eq's looked just like that on the 1st flush

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Re: Whats up with these pins? This is making me nervous!! [Re: gcboyallday]
    #11373888 - 11/02/09 11:33 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

looks like we had the same thing..  You should be fine..  :thumbup:


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Re: Whats up with these pins? This is making me nervous!! [Re: Ogla]
    #11388860 - 11/05/09 02:00 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Here's an update:

I dont know why everyone is stoked on mutants, I think they suck they screw up the yield.

Here's a few shots, as u can see it there is some strange discoloration, kind of a bluish blackish, i've seen this on other mutant pictures. I guess I should pick soon. Also here's my tub.






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Re: Whats up with these pins? (update: mutant experts help) [Re: nuk1m]
    #11389268 - 11/05/09 06:18 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

sounds like you are growing shrooms for the money aspect.  Wrong reason to enjoy this hobby

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Re: Whats up with these pins? (update: mutant experts help) [Re: kechlesurf]
    #11389327 - 11/05/09 06:39 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

id let those go a while longer, wait until you dont see growth for a day or two to harvest, during my PE grow the mutants were the highest yielding shroomies, thick as fuck

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Re: Whats up with these pins? (update: mutant experts help) [Re: kechlesurf]
    #11389458 - 11/05/09 07:41 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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sounds like you are growing shrooms for the money aspect.  Wrong reason to enjoy this hobby




Why is it that as soon as someone mentions being disappointed with a yield they're automatically selling? Some people just get a thrill out of a big harvest. I don't know the ops intentions but it's not right to make blind assumptions.


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Re: Whats up with these pins? (update: mutant experts help) [Re: sgaltair]
    #11389502 - 11/05/09 08:02 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I am working with Z strain right now and am having alot of mutants pop up too.
I thought it may have been an RH problem but after resetting my hygrometer I found I was wrong.


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Re: Whats up with these pins? (update: mutant experts help) [Re: mango man]
    #11390369 - 11/05/09 11:32 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

it could be a FAE issue, but idk what causes that to happen really

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Re: Whats up with these pins? (update: mutant experts help) [Re: Ogla]
    #11391166 - 11/05/09 02:05 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Well FAE problem is possible but i'd had many many grows with the same conditions and this is the first time it's happened. What does that discoloration mean?


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Re: Whats up with these pins? (update: mutant experts help) [Re: nuk1m]
    #11391949 - 11/05/09 04:05 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

mutants are caused by genetics, and theyre often discolored. but theyre great! just as good as normal fruits, and in my experience with PE sometimes way denser and bigger! so count your freakish mutant blessings :bigjoint:

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