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"Liquid Nails" brand silicone question
    #11370708 - 11/02/09 06:28 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

My local WalMart didn't have RTV brand silicone for injection ports, so I bought the next sturdiest looking brand called Liquid Nails. I was wondering if anyone had used this before, particularly PC'd this before, without it melting or stinking up the house.

Any thoughts other than going out and buying the RTV brand?


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Re: "Liquid Nails" brand silicone question [Re: c1dh3d]
    #11370735 - 11/02/09 06:30 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

I don't think that's silicone.


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Re: "Liquid Nails" brand silicone question [Re: c1dh3d]
    #11370757 - 11/02/09 06:32 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)



Yep, works fine. I don't know where it got started that only the red RTV silicone was appropriate, but most kinds, if not all will work.

Yeah, you're right, it isn't silicone but it does the job.


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Re: "Liquid Nails" brand silicone question [Re: dancefloordale]
    #11370832 - 11/02/09 06:39 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

The reason most people use the red RTV type sealant is that it is designed to handle high temperatures. It is used as a gasket making/amending material and can be used directly on an engine block without breaking down. It will also withstand H20 and solvents better. So it makes a good self healing injection port on lids that will be in and out of the PC.


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Re: "Liquid Nails" brand silicone question [Re: Epilson Lyrae]
    #11370847 - 11/02/09 06:42 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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The reason most people use the red RTV type sealant is that it is designed to handle high temperatures. It is used as a gasket making/amending material and can be used directly on an engine block without breaking down. It will also withstand H20 and solvents better. So it makes a good self healing injection port on lids that will be in and out of the PC.




You are right, but for mycology purposes any silicone will work.


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Re: "Liquid Nails" brand silicone question [Re: dancefloordale]
    #11370881 - 11/02/09 06:45 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

works for self healing ports, too?

I've also heard that RTV is unnecessary, that's rated for 450 while PC temps are well below 300 degrees. When I run out of RTV, I'll get some clear standard silicone.


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Re: "Liquid Nails" brand silicone question [Re: myceleus_rex]
    #11370921 - 11/02/09 06:50 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

If other stuff works, that is cool. I've never tried so I can't say but I'll take your word on it.
To the OP, did you look in the automotive section or the paint section? Just for future reference if you decide that you want RTV, it is in the automotive section or from an auto parts store and there are a couple of different kinds. The red is for higher temps I believe.
Good to hear that there are options though.:thumbup:


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Re: "Liquid Nails" brand silicone question [Re: dancefloordale]
    #11370967 - 11/02/09 06:56 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

I ask because I googled "liquid nails heat" and found a yahoo answer saying it hits a bubbling point at 180 degrees, and had a link that started referrring to it as being explosive.. so I figured explosive + pressure cooker = finding a new place to cultivate

Wasn't sure if the answer was referring to heat from a direct flame, or perhaps while its drying, or what the deal was.

It also has been taking a bit longer to solidify than I had imagined, which had me second guessing if it was perhaps less sturdy than RTV. The guide I am going by to make a LC the easy way with a baby bottle suggests letting the silicone dry for 12-24 hours, and around the 24 hour mark it is still pretty gooey under the top layer.

** Agar's baby bottle tek that is


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Re: "Liquid Nails" brand silicone question [Re: c1dh3d]
    #11371151 - 11/02/09 07:22 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

All silicone's will bubble at 180f before the are cured  and most are flammable but after they are set that is not an issue.
I use normal $1 a tube silicone and it works fine,  the key word is silicone though,  not siliconized or caulk.
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Re: "Liquid Nails" brand silicone question [Re: CH HELL]
    #11371170 - 11/02/09 07:23 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

most silicones work well
but that one
it stays...soft forever...no bueno


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Re: "Liquid Nails" brand silicone question [Re: just me]
    #11371201 - 11/02/09 07:27 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Also RTV isn't a brand it's a type. Go to any auto parts stores (If thats been said, sorry, im at work and only have time to skim)


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Re: "Liquid Nails" brand silicone question [Re: Beelzebozo]
    #11371257 - 11/02/09 07:37 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Ok, RTV it is, I'll be wasting too much time waiting for this stuff to set if it turns to shit on me. Thanks for the input! :bowdown:


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Re: "Liquid Nails" brand silicone question [Re: c1dh3d]
    #11371276 - 11/02/09 07:40 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

it was my only option once.
expensive, and just didnt do the job.

a lot of silicones will harden in the PC too

the liquid nails didnt "dry" for over 72 hours, and then melted some in the PC


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Re: "Liquid Nails" brand silicone question [Re: just me]
    #11371452 - 11/02/09 08:06 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

The one thing that really made me suspicious, is that I smooshed the end of the nipple to see if the inside has solidified at all, and it molded to the way I smooshed it. Then when I smooshed it the other way to try to reshape it back into the nipple, it pushed upwards and out of the tip.

Got some RTV now, will stick with that.


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Re: "Liquid Nails" brand silicone question [Re: just me]
    #11371466 - 11/02/09 08:08 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Red RTV from the auto parts store or the automotive section For the win.
Tried and true and very durable. And at about $3.....:shrug::thumbup:


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Re: "Liquid Nails" brand silicone question [Re: c1dh3d]
    #11371483 - 11/02/09 08:10 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Be sure when in Walmart to look in the right place for the RTV. Its not with the silicone caulk and paint and stuff, its with the auto parts stuff.


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Re: "Liquid Nails" brand silicone question [Re: Lifenergy]
    #11371769 - 11/02/09 08:49 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

You just have to let it cure longer. I made my first ports with it; it also holds the pvc arm hole pipes in place in my GB. Sturdy enough that I can rest my arms and support my body weight when working inside.


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Re: "Liquid Nails" brand silicone question [Re: dancefloordale]
    #11372031 - 11/02/09 09:31 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

RTV, yep. Any color besides clear. Clear is hard to work with.


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Re: "Liquid Nails" brand silicone question [Re: Doc_T]
    #11375256 - 11/03/09 10:26 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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RTV, yep. Any color besides clear. Clear is hard to work with.



Not if you used to decorate cakes! :cool:


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