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Invisiblegiza
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    #11370150 - 11/02/09 05:20 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

isn't sleeping a form of meditation?


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Re: meditation [Re: giza]
    #11370170 - 11/02/09 05:24 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

most certainly, going to sleep is drawing the mind inwards....

'meditation' is doing the same, but consciously

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Re: meditation [Re: Chronic7]
    #11370188 - 11/02/09 05:25 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

do you believe there is a way to view the dream world with technology?


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Re: meditation [Re: giza]
    #11370209 - 11/02/09 05:28 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

no. REM sleep is the only way. or astral projecting. neither have to do with technology


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Re: meditation [Re: giza]
    #11370210 - 11/02/09 05:28 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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giza said:
isn't sleeping a form of meditation?



No.  Meditation involves training of the mind.  Sleep is just a natural bodily function that requires no practice at all.  Meditation training enables one to control one's thoughts, emotions, and awareness in a way that no amount of sleep will ever do.  Interestingly, experienced meditators often develop the ability to maintain a witnessing awareness even during deep, dreamless sleep.


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Re: meditation [Re: giza]
    #11370216 - 11/02/09 05:29 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

im not interested in dreams :shrug:

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Re: meditation [Re: giza]
    #11370233 - 11/02/09 05:31 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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giza said:
isn't sleeping a form of meditation?




No idea. I suggest if you really want to know then find out what meditation and sleeping are and then compare the two... :ohwell:


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Re: meditation [Re: Ahimsa]
    #11370308 - 11/02/09 05:42 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

i don't understand, if meditation is making a clouded mind cloudless and when you go to sleep you do the same how is sleeping not meditation?


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Re: meditation [Re: giza]
    #11370325 - 11/02/09 05:43 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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giza said:
do you believe there is a way to view the dream world with technology?




There was a movie in the eighties where they could record other people's experiences. You could play them back and experience what other people do. That would be keen.


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Re: meditation [Re: giza]
    #11370326 - 11/02/09 05:44 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

when you go to sleep & dream, the clouds are aplenty

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Re: meditation [Re: giza]
    #11370334 - 11/02/09 05:45 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Can a dead man see his mind?


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Re: meditation [Re: giza]
    #11370548 - 11/02/09 06:10 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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giza said:
isn't sleeping a form of meditation?




Through that method alone the Icelandic sage reached enlightenment.


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Re: meditation [Re: Icelander]
    #11370823 - 11/02/09 06:38 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

meditating was most likely started because one had slept and had a dream


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Re: meditation [Re: giza]
    #11370838 - 11/02/09 06:40 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

What evidence do you base that on?


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Re: meditation [Re: giza]
    #11370877 - 11/02/09 06:44 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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giza said:
isn't sleeping a form of meditation?



No.  Its sleep.


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Re: meditation [Re: Icelander]
    #11370985 - 11/02/09 06:59 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Icelander said:
What evidence do you base that on?



no evidence just a thought


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Re: meditation [Re: giza]
    #11371003 - 11/02/09 07:01 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

You know what your thoughts are worth in a debate forum?:monkeydance: Let's not get off on the wrong foot here dear.:satansmoking:


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Re: meditation [Re: Icelander]
    #11371046 - 11/02/09 07:07 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

but philosphy is based on thought is it not?


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Re: meditation [Re: giza]
    #11371094 - 11/02/09 07:14 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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no evidence just a thought




Some people are old and confused, they think this is a scientific forum.


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Re: meditation [Re: giza]
    #11371130 - 11/02/09 07:19 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

giza said:
but philosphy is based on thought is it not?





Yes but all thoughts are not of equal value. Go over to OTD and you will see what I mean. You said "most likely", had you said "IMO" you could slide. But I love to challenge what I consider nonsense. Very few women who have come here have stayed and almost all of them have put me on ignore sooner or later. :thumbup: The Icelander is a head hunter. Unless you got class.


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