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The 100th Monkey by Ken Keyes Jr.
    #11368110 - 11/02/09 12:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

This book is about social change and nuclear arms proliferation which is all well and good.

However, I find it piss-poor journalism to base a book on a long-debunked myth. Keyes sites the '100th Monkey' case (look it up) as evidence for instantaneous knowledge transference, which is just plain wrong. This renders his well-meaning social commentary to be a joke.

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Re: The 100th Monkey by Ken Keyes Jr. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #11368142 - 11/02/09 12:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

debunked? prove it.


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Re: The 100th Monkey by Ken Keyes Jr. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #11371249 - 11/02/09 07:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
This book is about social change and nuclear arms proliferation which is all well and good.

However, I find it piss-poor journalism to base a book on a long-debunked myth. Keyes sites the '100th Monkey' case (look it up) as evidence for instantaneous knowledge transference, which is just plain wrong. This renders his well-meaning social commentary to be a joke.

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KenKesey I just like him. Your Ideas are Funny and Just Plain Wrong.


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Re: The 100th Monkey by Ken Keyes Jr. [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #11371266 - 11/02/09 07:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It's been a long time coming, it's going to be a long time gone.
or not.


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Re: The 100th Monkey by Ken Keyes Jr. [Re: Band of Gypsys]
    #11371320 - 11/02/09 07:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Band of Gypsys said:
It's been a long time coming, it's going to be a long time gone.
or not.




And it appears to be a long time, appears to be a long time, such a long long long long time, before the dawn.

People! You! Got! To! Wake! The! Monkeys! Up!

People, people, people.

Let those Chimps out of their cages

Cause You

And

Them

Ain't

So

Far

Apart

If

You

Are

Stupid

Enough

To

Let

That

Fucking

Monkey

Out

Of

It's

Cage.

Think

About

It.


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Re: The 100th Monkey by Ken Keyes Jr. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #11371386 - 11/02/09 07:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

OrgoneConclusion said:
This book is about social change and nuclear arms proliferation which is all well and good.

However, I find it piss-poor journalism to base a book on a long-debunked myth. Keyes sites the '100th Monkey' case (look it up) as evidence for instantaneous knowledge transference, which is just plain wrong. This renders his well-meaning social commentary to be a joke.

:thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:





While I agree he didn't know wtf he was talking about here it didn't change the fact of what he was trying to do. However while I really thought a lot of Ken I think he was pretty naive about stopping human madness.


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Re: The 100th Monkey by Ken Keyes Jr. [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #11371395 - 11/02/09 08:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Free the monkeys



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Re: The 100th Monkey by Ken Keyes Jr. [Re: Band of Gypsys]
    #11371425 - 11/02/09 08:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Band of Gypsys said:
Free the monkeys






Ha.  Free Willy.

Monkey See.

Monkey Do.

Monkey Gonna Doo Doo On You.

Stand Back.


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Re: The 100th Monkey by Ken Keyes Jr. [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #11371449 - 11/02/09 08:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I am wrong about the 100th MOnkey?

I will lay down $500 on that.


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Re: The 100th Monkey by Ken Keyes Jr. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #11371476 - 11/02/09 08:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The 100 monkeys are going to cost more than $5 each.

What if you put a 100 monkeys on typewriters? Would they eventually type a Shakespeare novel?

I'm a monkey...man!


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Re: The 100th Monkey by Ken Keyes Jr. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #11371486 - 11/02/09 08:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

OrgoneConclusion said:
I am wrong about the 100th MOnkey[sic]




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Re: The 100th Monkey by Ken Keyes Jr. [Re: Band of Gypsys]
    #11371529 - 11/02/09 08:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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What if you put a 100 monkeys on typewriters? Would they eventually type a Shakespeare novel?




Four monkees wrote 'Pleasant Valley Sunday'...


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Re: The 100th Monkey by Ken Keyes Jr. [Re: Band of Gypsys]
    #11371548 - 11/02/09 08:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

the 100th



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Re: The 100th Monkey by Ken Keyes Jr. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #11371555 - 11/02/09 08:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

"Pleasant Valley Sunday" is a song by Gerry Goffin and Carole King, most famous for the version recorded by The Monkees in 1967.

Strike two in one thread. :cheer:


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Re: The 100th Monkey by Ken Keyes Jr. [Re: Band of Gypsys]
    #11371678 - 11/02/09 08:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I still got one left, right?


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Re: The 100th Monkey by Ken Keyes Jr. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #11371684 - 11/02/09 08:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

For now.


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Re: The 100th Monkey by Ken Keyes Jr. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #11371736 - 11/02/09 08:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

What if you put a 100 monkeys on typewriters? Would they eventually type a Shakespeare novel?




Four monkees wrote 'Pleasant Valley Sunday'...





A number one hit and one boring Monkees episode with teenage girls hoping Davey wasn't really well you know.


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Re: The 100th Monkey by Ken Keyes Jr. [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #11371752 - 11/02/09 08:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

He is NOT! :mad2:





Is he?


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Re: The 100th Monkey by Ken Keyes Jr. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #11371779 - 11/02/09 08:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, he is

an octopus.



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Re: The 100th Monkey by Ken Keyes Jr. [Re: Band of Gypsys]
    #11371802 - 11/02/09 08:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Cool!


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