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Apologizing for someone's death whom you never met
    #11363433 - 11/01/09 05:28 PM (8 years, 24 days ago)

Whussup wif dat?


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Re: Apologizing for someone's death whom you never met [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #11363544 - 11/01/09 05:46 PM (8 years, 24 days ago)

Hate it. It annoys the hell out of me. Just like when you are really sick and people say I'm sorry, or I hope you get better.

Why don't they actually make an attempt to help.

I would file this under they care, but not enough to actually do anything.


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Re: Apologizing for someone's death whom you never met [Re: Justin_c17]
    #11363655 - 11/01/09 06:07 PM (8 years, 24 days ago)

It's just what ppl say, it may not make sense when you examine it, but it means, hey, I care.  We all don't have the means to help all the time, sometimes a simple saying like hope you get better is all we can do, it says I care about you and attempts to make the person feel better/positive.  If you take everything literally you fail to recognize the simple meanings behind things.


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Re: Apologizing for someone's death whom you never met [Re: Smitington]
    #11363696 - 11/01/09 06:15 PM (8 years, 24 days ago)

Yeah that's all.  If someone tells you someone they cared about died what are you going to say?  If you don't care about either person then you say sorry so they leave you alone.  If you know them you say you're sorry for their loss.  What else is there to do, straight up walk away or spout some esoteric bullshit about death?


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Re: Apologizing for someone's death whom you never met [Re: Smitington]
    #11363702 - 11/01/09 06:15 PM (8 years, 24 days ago)

Doesn't always mean they care. If I say it it's because it would be embarrassing to say "oh well, them's the brakes" Which is what I'd like to say.


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Re: Apologizing for someone's death whom you never met [Re: Icelander]
    #11363717 - 11/01/09 06:21 PM (8 years, 24 days ago)

What also irritates me is when someone dies, there's the person who will make a huge fucking deal about it even though while the aforementioned dead person was still alive, the mourner wouldn't give them the time of day.


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Re: Apologizing for someone's death whom you never met [Re: elbisivni]
    #11364275 - 11/01/09 07:50 PM (8 years, 24 days ago)

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elbisivni said:
Yeah that's all.  If someone tells you someone they cared about died what are you going to say?  If you don't care about either person then you say sorry so they leave you alone.  If you know them you say you're sorry for their loss.  What else is there to do, straight up walk away or spout some esoteric bullshit about death?




I say that sucks. Because I'm not sorry. People die, it is natural. I'm not saying when someone dies I brush it off like it's nothing, I mourn too. But the last thing I want is someone trying to cheer me up. Let me mourn, maybe you could feed my dog while I go out of state to the funeral or something.

The whole stay positive attitude is bullshit. It is just something people say because they either don't really want to help or they don't know how.(not directing this towards anyone in particular, just saying how I feel about people that say stay positive)


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Re: Apologizing for someone's death whom you never met [Re: Justin_c17]
    #11364476 - 11/01/09 08:31 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

i admit i don't fuckin' know how and that is pretty much why i just say "i'm sorry, is there anything i can do to help?" cuz really i have no idea.


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Re: Apologizing for someone's death whom you never met [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #11369149 - 11/02/09 03:07 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

When i hear someone had died, inside im so happy
I cant help it, something inside is just ecstatic

I dislike having to put on a 'serious' face & apologize

:peace:


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Re: Apologizing for someone's death whom you never met [Re: Chronic7]
    #11369163 - 11/02/09 03:09 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

I agree.


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Re: Apologizing for someone's death whom you never met [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #11369199 - 11/02/09 03:14 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

Saying i'm sorry to indicate i'm trying to feel along with their sorrow. It's the least i can do.


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Re: Apologizing for someone's death whom you never met [Re: Icelander]
    #11369204 - 11/02/09 03:15 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

y ru happy?


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Re: Apologizing for someone's death whom you never met [Re: Smitington]
    #11369215 - 11/02/09 03:16 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

Their suffering and confusion is over as far as I know.


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Re: Apologizing for someone's death whom you never met [Re: Ahimsa]
    #11369247 - 11/02/09 03:21 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

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Ahimsa said:
Saying i'm sorry to indicate i'm trying to feel along with their sorrow. It's the least i can do.





Have you ever thought that their sorrow is selfishness?

See, a couple years ago i lost my best friend, previous to his passing we were hanging out almost everyday for a year straight, then 'poof' hes gone...
One hell of an attachment to be ripped away...

Now when i felt sorrow, i can admit it was pure selfishness
Wishing 'I' still had him around
Wishing 'I' could go out with him tonight
'I' miss him
'I' wish he was still here
'I' want him to come back...

All utter selfishness!!!

When I could really let go of him is when I could see he has been set free
When I stopped selfishly mourning MY loss & started celebrating HIS freedom

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Re: Apologizing for someone's death whom you never met [Re: Chronic7]
    #11369289 - 11/02/09 03:25 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

Ok. But most people i've met who lost a friend feel bad about it.
I guess they miss the intimacy of friendship. :ohwell:


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Re: Apologizing for someone's death whom you never met [Re: Ahimsa]
    #11369291 - 11/02/09 03:25 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

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Saying i'm sorry to indicate i'm trying to feel along with their sorrow. It's the least i can do.




Random Woman: My husband died 4 months ago.
Ahimsa: I am sorry to hear that.

Random Woman: My great-great-great-great-great grand uncle's second wife died 300 years ago.
Ahimsa: I am sorry to hear that.
or
Ahimsa: So what?


How does time and genetic closeness factor into the equation?


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Re: Apologizing for someone's death whom you never met [Re: Ahimsa]
    #11369299 - 11/02/09 03:26 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

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Ok. But most people i've met who lost a friend feel bad about it.
I guess they miss the intimacy of friendship. :ohwell:




It's really very difficult to tell how another person really feels.


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Re: Apologizing for someone's death whom you never met [Re: Icelander]
    #11369323 - 11/02/09 03:29 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

Well, they were sad and crying, and they uttered how much they were pained by the loss.
So... i couldn't help but feeling sorry for their grief.


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Re: Apologizing for someone's death whom you never met [Re: Ahimsa]
    #11369347 - 11/02/09 03:31 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

You couldn't help it huh?:satansmoking:


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Re: Apologizing for someone's death whom you never met [Re: Ahimsa]
    #11369350 - 11/02/09 03:32 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

How about instead of 'im sorry' suggest that 'its okay' :shrug:


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