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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: Epilson Lyrae]
    #12204838 - 03/15/10 04:54 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Yea, i am allowing air exchanges for this project. Any thing i should change or do in this project? Thks

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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: carbonsteel]
    #12209529 - 03/15/10 10:11 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

i would suggest trying to fruit it as a tub. but maybe modify the tub to be more like a traditional ohmatic monotub. or modify the holes to be more like doc t's mini mono.


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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: carbonsteel]
    #12210016 - 03/15/10 11:30 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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And the substrate did not show any signs of primordia formation of pinning activity after 4 to 5 days. I usually see formation activity after 2 sometimes 3 days after i put it to fruiting conditions, either on monotubs, casings or cakes. During fliping i also realised that the surface had formed some thicken mycelium formation which collects water. Bad sign? I would have asked if they are overlayed, but i remember reading here in shroomery that substrate without casing do not overlay.






If they look like those don't flip them, no problems there.  Let them run on their own schedule.

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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #12217088 - 03/17/10 04:34 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Hi guys!! Thanks for the advices Anonjon & PrimalSoup, that means i should fruit as a tub but i just do not have the time to do the modifications in time for the "upcoming containers"

I had therefore fruited it as a cake, this time the right side up. Sadly, just like the 1st container, i see some stagnant water on the mycelium surface, that was the main reason i fliped the substrate over the first time, because of discolouration & stagnant water. Anything i should do about it? Or just leave the damn thing alone?

Thanks again guys.

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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: carbonsteel]
    #12217118 - 03/17/10 05:11 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

leave them alone,...they look somewhat healthy my man.patience young grasshopper...lol:lmafo:


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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: 99BOOMERMAN]
    #12219097 - 03/17/10 02:26 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

if it pools too badly and you get the itch to do something about it, dab it up with a clean paper towel.


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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: anonjon]
    #12222770 - 03/18/10 04:48 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

LOL.... i know i know.... shows that im so damn impatient. Sorry guys, i dont tend to look at my project much when my stash is huge. But recently, it had been dwindling, it kept me on my toes.

I had always see myself more of a weed guy and initially i didnt like shrooms very much. Till recently like half a year back, i felt it!! The very soothing mental state (at least for me) is something that got me crazy!! I began chomping on my stash, i have totally no idea how much i went thru, but it is pretty much.

And now, i am trying to figure ways whereby i can increase my stash as fast as i can. I will post the lastest pics when the new cake shows signs of pinning activity, the 2nd cake had already been dunk and pins are showing. I still dont feel good about the water, but i will leave it alone, and as Anonjon had mentioned, i will use paper towel to suck up the excess water if i have no other choice.

Pretty confident that they will be growing, but i hope to acheive way more yield than 7g to 8g dry harvest on that big a cake. Thanks for the help guys.

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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: carbonsteel]
    #12236269 - 03/20/10 10:42 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Nice, the 2nd "cake" seems to be showing very nice signs of pinning activity. Strange thing is the top side doesnt seem to be have any sort of primordia formation. The sides and bottom are pinning pretty well. I will post some pics up when i get the chance.

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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: carbonsteel]
    #12239960 - 03/21/10 01:12 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Hi guys, just to update for more comments. The 1st cake is currently now on its second flush. The fruits are some of the biggest i managed to grow, the biggest pin is about 4" to 5", and their caps have not opened yet. Hopefully the potency is as good as the first flush. The yield is probably gonna be crap.




The 2nd cake is now pinning decently. I can only see 5 sides of the "cake". But i am pretty sure, just like the 1st cake, there will be pinning at the bottom, as i had left a piece of aluminium foil at the bottom to prevent water from the perlite ever touching the pins at the bottom and at the same time it reflects light encouraging pinning at the bottom of the cake.



I had been into this hobby for about a year, and very briefly i went thru fruiting from cakes, monos, jars, spawning and casings. I tend to have more consistant yield from casings than any other methods but they are also the most labour intensive.
For these 2 "cakes" i used colonized grains, which when fully colonized i spawned them to coir & coffee layered in a transparent 4"x4"x4" container. Took about 2 weeks to fully colonized both the containers.

Both times i planned to fruit from the containers housed in the tub itself. But both times i ended up flipping the substrate out from the containers and fruit it as a cake.
The first cake was fliped upside down, ended up with pitiful yield but crazy potent fruits. The second cake was fliped right side up and is currently looking to produce way more fruits than the 1st cake.

I have already decided that spawning to coir and coffe from grains to achieve the biggest/heaviest substrate will be the least labour intensive for myself, and i will probably be using this method in the future. I will only have to tweak on my pinning methods to get better yields.

I thought of casing the "cake" with vermiculite for future grows, should i sterilized the vermiculite or am i fine using it as it is. From what i have read, the yield will be more than what i am doing now? I do dunk my cakes but i prefer leaving out vermiculite casing if i can, but if it will increase my yield drastically, i will use it. Any comments? Thanks ^^

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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: carbonsteel]
    #12247010 - 03/22/10 04:50 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Hi again everyone!! I have started harvested on the 1st cake which is on 2nd flush at the moment.

I am only halfway done with the harvesting, planning to harvest the balance within the next 6hrs to 12hrs. Good news is, some of the fruits i have harvested is CRAZY big!! (at least for me)

I weight some of the fruits, one of them weight 32 grams fresh, the second one came in at 26 grams fresh. The fruits are fresh, but they are far from moist/wet. I just hope the fruit will be as potent as the first flush.

I will post some more pics up in abit. Any answers on the "sterilized vermiculite"? Thanks again everyone.

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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: carbonsteel]
    #12253430 - 03/23/10 04:39 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Here are some lastest pics of the 2nd cake on 1st flush. The fruits are not as big as what i had on the 1st cake, but there are way more pins.




I really hope the upcoming fruits will be as potent as the 1st cake.

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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: carbonsteel]
    #12322259 - 04/03/10 08:40 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Sup all. Managed to harvest and be done with the 2 cakes. I managed to get the first cake to 2nd flush and only managed for the 1st flush for the 2nd cake.

All in all, compared to the effort i had put in for casing spawing from grains to coir works out nicely for me. Again, i need to tweak my pinning strategy, fruiting conditions and what not, but due to the waayyy lesser effort needed for this method even the yield i harvested was decent.

For my next few projects, i will be doing the same, spawning from grains to coir. But this time i will fruit all the upcoming containers in the tubs.

I will be casing with vermiculite, i read up alot of materials on vermiculite. Probably not the best, but pretty much all i have now.

I will first sterilized the moist vermiculite , though many mentioned it is not necessary. I will then proceed directly to case the containters with fully colonized mycelium after the vermiculite has cooled.

Since it will be the first time i will be casing with vermiculite, may i know if i do the same casing procedure applies to casing with vermiculite compared to peat moss? Thanks guys ^^

Some of the pics from the 1st cake 2nd flush.




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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: carbonsteel]
    #13029642 - 08/09/10 11:20 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Alot of useful informatiun I found in this thread-thanks.

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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: starcade]
    #13030611 - 08/10/10 07:16 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: starcade]
    #13030725 - 08/10/10 08:14 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Alot of useful informatiun I found in this thread-thanks.




A good demonstration of growing in the absence of fresh air.


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