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carbonsteel
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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: spastick]
#11509078 - 11/23/09 05:34 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hi guys, i have decided that my monotub is a failure... my yield was pityful. I have another 3 tubs going, 1 tub was totally destroyed by contamination, 2nd tub was partially contaminated. Tried saving it, and is currently grown outdoors. 3rd one is still looking good....up till now....
The contaminated tub

I cut by the sectors which are contaminated and remove the healthy pieces. Chances are it will not work, but i have decided to grow outside away from my grow room.
Sad outcome, my first tub worked but with pityful yield, 2nd and 3rd tub failed totally. Hopping that the last tub will come out nicely. I guess i failed probably because my pasturisation methods are sloppy.
No tubs fruiting at the moment, but i do have 1 casing fruiting with decent pin sets with a huge pin that has aborted but the rest are still looking good.
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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: carbonsteel]
#11509723 - 11/23/09 09:52 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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What do you think you did wrong in the pasteurization process?
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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: sync]
#11509806 - 11/23/09 10:12 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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so let me get this straight, you soak the straw for 1-2 days, then PC it correct?
if so, why are you calling this a dry straw casing. i would think that it is near if not at "full capacity" from all of that. Also have you tried not casing with your "dry straw" to see if results are the same?
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carbonsteel
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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: sync]
#11516716 - 11/24/09 04:09 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hi sync, i guess i'm was just lazy during pasterization process for the 2nd and 3rd monotubs. I have a total of 4 monotubs which i prepared. I prepared only enough substrate for monotub 1 first, as i wanna know if i am able to spawn to coir and fruit it successfully.
I soak the first batch of coir in hot water till it cools. I then move the whole pail to a clean room and drain it. After washing my hands with anti bacteria soap, i start to "layer" the substrate with bare hands. First bottom layer is coir then spawn and so on, ending the last layer with spawns.
I was pleasantly surpised when with the help of members in shroomery, i managed to get the pure coir monotub to fruit (again, with very poor results) So i went for the 2nd and 3rd one. This time, just like the 1st time, i poured boilling water to soak till it cools. I did not move it to a clean room to drain this time, i did that right in the kitchen....and after drainning it, i left it there for like 2 days before using it. I knew i should have re-poured hot water and wait for it to cool before using....I was lazy I assume that is what causes the contamination on monotub 2 & 3.
No worries though, due to the wwwaaayyyyy lesser work involve with monotubs compared to casings PF cakes, not to mention that it is much neater (at least for me) I will try to master monotubs.
I will also in the future try to inocculate the coir once it cools as soon as i can inorder to minimised contamination.
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carbonsteel
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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: Mr. Mushroom]
#11516728 - 11/24/09 04:16 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hi Mushroom San, yes, i soak the "dry straws" and then PC it. I hope after the procedure, it is considered "field capacity" I have not tried uncased substrate as i am still very new to this, i do not know if i can get an uncased substrate to fruit. I do plan to try it very soon.
I will post up some pics for the fruiting casing, only because it is producing some good size babies 
Also, when i buy the "dry straws" it comes dried..i shouldnt be calling it dry straws after it has been soaked and PCed... but i tend to make the mistake of calling it dry straws everytime.
Edited by carbonsteel (11/24/09 04:52 AM)
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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: carbonsteel]
#11516900 - 11/24/09 06:00 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hi again everyone ^^
The latest pictures are here!! Got about 50 grams wet, probably translating to about 5g dry. I harvested abit later than i would like to, but its all good....

Some of the bigger fruits i harvested

Again, i find it more comfortable to fruit casings but im trying very hard to master monotubs, once my i can get most of my monos to fruit like my casings ^^ Damn!!!    
Edited by carbonsteel (11/24/09 06:01 AM)
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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: carbonsteel]
#11516962 - 11/24/09 06:46 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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throw that contaminated one away, the trich is taking over fast
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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: anonjon]
#11517079 - 11/24/09 07:41 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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You will succeed, just try again.Do something differently this time you neven know
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carbonsteel
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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: Batista]
#11517250 - 11/24/09 08:34 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thks anonjon. The one that is badly contaminated is already thrown.
Yea man, Batista, thks... I aint giving up yet.... not till i managed to get a decent stash for my long trip to the planets
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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: carbonsteel]
#11714280 - 12/24/09 09:37 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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you know the old saying an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure...make that something that crosses your mind everytime your doing a project then perhaps you will have 2 or 3 success stories and only one failure measure twice cut once...
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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: stoner42001]
#11714293 - 12/24/09 09:41 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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also look at your spawn. it could be a path for contams as well.
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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: mister]
#11714317 - 12/24/09 09:47 PM (15 years, 27 days ago) |
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nice shrooms, just a side tip...for you and everyone...be mindful of posting such fine clear photos of your fingerprints...nudge nudge, wink wink..know what i mean...
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carbonsteel
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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: carbonsteel]
#12111008 - 02/27/10 11:34 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hi guys, since these last projects, i tried to manage a few more monotubs. Most of them came out decent... still not even near to the kind of weight i see in shroomery but i'm still trying.... One of the pics i that i had taken from one of the tubs

I have another uncased colonized substrate going on in a 5"x5"x5" container (closed cover, see thru sides) holding about 80% coir and 20% coffee, spawned from rye grain. I pour quite abit of spawn as the container seems to hold a decent amount of substrate. Took about 10 days for the whole container to fully colonized. As the container is transparent, before covering the sides & bottom of the container with foil to prevent side pinning. I can see the sides and bottom of the substrate in the container covered with clean, healthy whitish mycelium, fully colonized. But after opening up the container cover, i see brownish yellowish droplets on the mycelium. Tried dabbing some of the droplets with sterilized tissue, seems to absorbed water, no discolouration detected on the tissue. It is now in FC. Again, i am very new to these, here are some pics i had taken, any input from anyone who has seen these?
 Immediately after opening.
  After 1 day in the fruiting chamber.
 Closed up
Are they contaminated? Or are these hopefully "mycelium piss"? Any comments or suggestion from ppl who has came across these "droplets"?
Edited by carbonsteel (02/27/10 11:37 PM)
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biologys
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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: carbonsteel]
#12111049 - 02/27/10 11:43 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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they look perfectly fine to me..
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carbonsteel
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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: biologys]
#12111508 - 02/28/10 02:05 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thks for the prompt reply biologys, glad that it is fine. What are those brownish yellow droplets then? If you click on the last closed up picture, they are visible. Again, really happy to know that they are not any kind of contamination. Thks again.
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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: carbonsteel]
#12111522 - 02/28/10 02:12 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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yellow droplets are normally "myc piss" or metabolites..
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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: biologys]
#12111707 - 02/28/10 05:25 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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those brown spots look like some surface trich that failed to take hold to me. its fine.
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carbonsteel
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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: anonjon]
#12111766 - 02/28/10 06:16 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thks again biologys, wats up Anonjon?
I feel comfortable with "mycelium piss".. but surface trich which failed to take over? DAMN!! Should i be worried?? I had tried dabbing some of the "brownish yellow" droplets with clean tissue hopping to suck up the droplets. Wouldnt that have distributed trich spores?
Anything i can do to really decrease the chances of Trich forming without harming the mycelium? Had very bad experiences with Trich before.
 This tub was fully taken over by Trich by the time i opened it few weeks back. I had to admit that my methods for this particular tub was kinda sloppy.
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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: carbonsteel]
#12111773 - 02/28/10 06:19 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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well, the fact u having such problem w/ trich makes me think i was right.
but the fact that its brown means whatever it was the myc killed it.
i never really worry about anything yellow or brown. it's grey and green that worry me.
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carbonsteel
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Re: When to fruit this monotub? pictures [Re: anonjon]
#12112122 - 02/28/10 09:01 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nice thks, real glad to hear that. I will keep it in FC and keep real close eye one it. I will keep the pics posted for any further progress worthy to share.
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