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OfflineCantero
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Amantia muscaria? I think so...but can't be 100%
    #11355530 - 10/31/09 01:01 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Ok i think i found some Amantia muscarias, maybe Amanita muscaria var. persicina?

Im pretty sure they are what i think, but this species is pretty wide ranging from what i read and i want to be sure before i eat them.

They where growing in a patch of about 7 directly under a pine or fir tree, ranging from just sprouting to fairly old, the thing that has me second guessing is the color and i can't get a 100% identification on the bottom of the stipe, it had some tooth like looking structures but they where pretty fragile and alot came off when i pulled them out and from the walk home, they are dark orange to red in the middle fading out to light orange/almost yellow on the older specimens, we do get heavy rain here which could be a reason for the color.

Sorry about the crappy cell-phone pics. If needed i can borrow a friends high-res camera.

So shroomery, what do you think?

Pic 1:
Youngest

Pic 2:
Second youngest.


Pic 3:
Oldest.


Pic 4:
Second oldest.


Pic 5:
Oldest bottom.


Pic 6:
Volva of second oldest.








Habitat: Wood, growing under what seemed like a pine or fir.

Gills: White.

Stem: Whitish, fairly tough for a shroom, large bulb on bottom it had tooth like structures but they where very fragile and most came off on the trip home

Cap: Red (fading to orange on older specimens)  3-6 inches in diameter.


Bruising: Checked for red bruising, scratched and squeezed stems and gills they only turned brown

Location: Picked in Washington

Edited by Cantero (10/31/09 01:24 AM)

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Re: Amantia muscaria? I think so...but can't be 100% [Re: Cantero]
    #11355545 - 10/31/09 01:05 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

No pictures home slice.

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Re: Amantia muscaria? I think so...but can't be 100% [Re: Cantero]
    #11355568 - 10/31/09 01:15 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)


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Re: Amantia muscaria? I think so...but can't be 100% [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11355586 - 10/31/09 01:24 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Fixed, my appologies.

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Re: Amantia muscaria? I think so...but can't be 100% [Re: Cantero]
    #11355615 - 10/31/09 01:39 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Amanita amerimuscaria

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Re: Amantia muscaria? I think so...but can't be 100% [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11355682 - 10/31/09 02:02 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Hmm, but it's still an edible amantia, right? I was planning on enjoying these with some friends on Halloween if i can get a few more positive identifications.

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Re: Amantia muscaria? I think so...but can't be 100% [Re: Cantero]
    #11355942 - 10/31/09 05:26 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

'edible' meaning you won't die but might puke a lot and feel like shit if you don't prepare them correctly


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Re: Amantia muscaria? I think so...but can't be 100% [Re: Beege]
    #11356016 - 10/31/09 06:10 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Alan's got it.. A. amerimuscaria.

Amanita persicina does not occur in the PNW.

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Re: Amantia muscaria? I think so...but can't be 100% [Re: Beege]
    #11357740 - 10/31/09 01:52 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Beege said:
'edible' meaning you won't die but might puke a lot and feel like shit if you don't prepare them correctly




You mean dry them very thoroughly so the ibotenic acid converts to muscimol, right?

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Re: Amantia muscaria? I think so...but can't be 100% [Re: Cantero]
    #11357746 - 10/31/09 01:54 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Right.:thumbup:

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Re: Amantia muscaria? I think so...but can't be 100% [Re: HerbBaker]
    #11357759 - 10/31/09 01:55 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

well thats if you're eating it for it's um.. "active" properties. as an edible it must be parboiled


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Re: Amantia muscaria? I think so...but can't be 100% [Re: Beege]
    #11358312 - 10/31/09 03:31 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Ah ok, thanks.

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