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Boletus edulis?!! (Pics)
    #1135767 - 12/12/02 03:45 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Ok, well, I'm almost positive I finally have found the king bolete. Now, there are two color variations, there are creamy ones which I found growing under pine, and then there are darker colored ones found under tan-oak.

Could someone maybe make sure that these are indeed eduilis?

Here are the pictures.






These are the darker ones.


And the two placed together.




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Re: Boletus edulis?!! (Pics) [Re: angryshroom]
    #1135782 - 12/12/02 03:50 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

maybe someone will be more definite, but i say you have some veeeery closely related to the king, and some kings,
they could all be the same species, but regardless those would be good eating.

maybe boletus aureus?
the pores vary from white to yellow.
the stalks all bear reticulations.
the caps are in the right range.

good eatin.
i wanna come huntin with angry.
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Re: Boletus edulis?!! (Pics) [Re: angryshroom]
    #1135830 - 12/12/02 04:09 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

The appearance is right. You should also verify that they don't bruise bluish and that the flavor is mild (not bitter or peppery). The very pale ones could be Boletus barrowsii, a very similar mushroom which was split off from Boletus edulis. They are possibly even better than Boletus edulis is.

Nice finds. And, as usual, excellent photography. Looks like feast time!


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Re: Boletus edulis?!! (Pics) [Re: ToxicMan]
    #1135987 - 12/12/02 05:02 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks Toxic man.

There was no bluing on any of the specimens. I have not tried to taste them yet. Whats a good method? Just bite a tiny bit, chew and spit?

So most likely the two variations are both edible? Should I dry them, since I couldnt eat them all at once. Seems like you'd have to slice them up to get them to dry properly.

Also, you have any good cooking suggestions? I was thinking about cooking them in a pan with some olive oil and garlic, maybe some onions bell peppers and red wine vingar and just eat them straight like that...?>

Ive had them in a cream white wine sauce over angle-hair which was amazing.

Any good links to post?


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Re: Boletus edulis?!! (Pics) [Re: angryshroom]
    #1136271 - 12/12/02 06:30 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

To taste, take a small piece (smaller than your smallest fingernail) and put it in your mouth, chew until you taste it (or until you get tired of chewing it), then spit it out. For boletes the taste should be obvious if it's bitter or peppery within a few seconds.

As viscid mentioned, there are a few very similar species to Boletus edulis which will meet the usual list of field characters, but they are all similarly edible.

If you want to dry to preserve them, slice them top to bottom at least a half inch thick. When they dry they will shrink a lot and the thicker slices help retain the texture.

Freezing also works well. I recommend cleaning, cooking (frying), then freezing, because trying to clean frozen mushrooms before cleaning them is annoying. It's much more convenient to just whip out a serving frozen in a baggie and dump it into whatever you're wanting the mushrooms in.

Whatever you decide to do, don't just let them sit in your refrigerator. If they are maggot-free now, they won't be within a couple days. The eggs for the mushroom gnats are already inside them. You need to do something to kill those eggs or you'll be in for an unpleasant surprise.

Here is a quick link to some general information on them relating to eating. Just do a Google search for "boletus edulis recipe" (and add anything that will help get to the specific recipe you want) and you'll find more recipes than you'll know what to do with. One of my personal favorites is cream of mushroom soup (boletes make it unbelievable). This recipe is fairly straightforward and basic. I find that a small amount (a tablespoon or so in the pot) of sherry does wonders for the flavor of this soup.

Finally, remember that overindulgence of even the best mushrooms can make you sick.

Have a great meal.


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Re: Boletus edulis?!! (Pics) [Re: ToxicMan]
    #1136305 - 12/12/02 06:40 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Well I have now come to the conclusion that tehy are not edulis, but some other species.

The brown capped ones have no clear taste, the pale ones are bitter.


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Re: Boletus edulis?!! (Pics) [Re: angryshroom]
    #1136741 - 12/12/02 09:36 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Still a beautiful looking find that :smile:


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Re: Boletus edulis?!! (Pics) [Re: angryshroom]
    #1137286 - 12/13/02 04:21 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

The taste of Boletus edulis is described in the books as "mild". Translated - they won't have much, if any, taste. This actually confirms the ID.

Obviously the pale ones are something else.

For boletes the taste test is intended to eliminate the bitter and peppery ones only. The rest generally have little or no taste this way.

Hope you didn't toss them.


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Re: Boletus edulis?!! (Pics) [Re: angryshroom]
    #1137380 - 12/13/02 05:09 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

The second picture that shows the close up of the upper stem is definately a Boletus edulis. The light colored reticulation (netting) on a darker background is key. Although I have found lighter colored edulis that look similar to what you have found, the bitter taste rules it out. Does it have the fine netting on the upper stem?

What is nice with boletes is none will kill you. If it tastes good, it is good. Very few will even make you sick and those have red pores and/or bluing flesh.


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Re: Boletus edulis?!! (Pics) [Re: Workman]
    #1137581 - 12/13/02 07:01 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks ToxicMan and Workman once again. (hey that rhymed)

I did notice that none of the specimens blued, which is a good thing, Im preforming a spore print right now.

Seems like the caps are pretty viscid/slippery, which I was sort of leaning to that they might be slippery jacks. BUt was reading that boletes will have viscid caps as well! THe last characteristic is that the stems are pretty damn skinny in relation to the cap as most edulis i have seen.

All in all, they are most likely edible, correct? Im thinking that thte dark ones are good but the pale ones have a little peppery taste, and going ot throw them out.

Gotta do something with that cauliflower mushroom too hehe



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Re: Boletus edulis?!! (Pics) [Re: angryshroom]
    #1137612 - 12/13/02 07:13 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

man, i'd go right ahed and eat them all (except the pale/bitter tasting ones) now, fresh, they must be amazing :laugh: 


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Re: Boletus edulis?!! (Pics) [Re: angryshroom]
    #1137688 - 12/13/02 07:43 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Wonderful pictures angryshroom
I would like to add some pictures of my Boletus Edulis find.





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Re: Boletus edulis?!! (Pics) [Re: SalviaEngland]
    #1138184 - 12/13/02 11:11 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

NIce pictures :smile:

BTW. Im drying the dark capped ones, as they taste pretty damn good raw. The pale ones are icky :frown:


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Re: Boletus edulis?!! (Pics) [Re: angryshroom]
    #1139364 - 12/13/02 06:44 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

very lucky man.
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Re: Boletus edulis?!! (Pics) [Re: angryshroom]
    #1140274 - 12/14/02 07:59 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Porcini mushroom, Angry. The King!

I'm sure you found them, because i found them too, and they are delicious!!
dry sautee', then cook in butter, garlic and herbs. :smile:

mmmmmmmm......
went lookin for more last week, no luck. however, found 10 pounds up north, sold the extras to a local italian place. =]


note* the ones with white caps are not colored due to absense of light exposure. If i know my King Bolettes, they grow under thick layers of pine needles, and sometimes you cannot see them at all... have to dig for them. great find!


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