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Re: "Be Present" they say "But don't think!" [Re: Silversoul]
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Silversoul said:
And just in case you're not convinced that it's anything more than "relaxation," here's Ken Wilber using an EEG machine to demonstrate the degree of control an experienced meditator can have over their brain:




I could need read those peer reviewed as I was not willing to pay money to read them as the site requests. All of the 'benefits' described for meditation can be explained by the benefits of relaxation.

I do love that Ken Wilber video and how he can reduce his brainwaves to Zero. That kinda proves my point more than it does yours. :lol:

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Re: "Be Present" they say "But don't think!" [Re: RationalEgo]
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RationalEgo said:
I could need read those peer reviewed as I was not willing to pay money to read them as the site requests. All of the 'benefits' described for meditation can be explained by the benefits of relaxation.


I love how you made up your mind before reviewing the evidence.  It's very religious of you.

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I do love that Ken Wilber video and how he can reduce his brainwaves to Zero. That kinda proves my point more than it does yours. :lol:


Yeah, if you look at it from a juvenile, Beavis-and-Butthead attitude:

:butthead:  Huh huh...He's got no brain waves.

:beavis:  Yeah...hehe...He's dumb...hehe...

:rolleyes:


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Re: "Be Present" they say "But don't think!" [Re: Silversoul]
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I've read articles about the supposed 'benefits of meditation, that is where I came to this conclusion. Don't be so presumptuous as to think that I have not already done my research or that you are the only person to ever post links to articles for me on the subject.

Also, I did not say Ken was dumb, I did however make many statements in this thread about the zombie-like state that meditaters are advocating, Then you go and post that video. That was funny and it does actually prove my point more than it does yours. :lol:

Please excuse me if you don't share my sense of humour. Perhaps you just don't like that the joke is on you.

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Re: "Be Present" they say "But don't think!" *DELETED* [Re: Silversoul]
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Post deleted by Band of Gypsys

Reason for deletion: Not wasting anymore time.



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Re: "Be Present" they say "But don't think!" [Re: Band of Gypsys]
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You should know.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: "Be Present" they say "But don't think!" [Re: Icelander]
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the tympanis rock


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Re: "Be Present" they say "But don't think!" [Re: redgreenvines]
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Well I did not make it all the way through this thread, but I noticed that the posters do not seem intent on listening and trying to understand the answers to their questions.

It appears that instead you wish to bait with a question so that you can argue, playing a game. An ego game.

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Re: "Be Present" they say "But don't think!" [Re: Freedom]
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Yeah that's RGV all right.:thumbup:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: "Be Present" they say "But don't think!" [Re: Freedom]
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Freedom said:
Well I did not make it all the way through this thread, but I noticed that the posters do not seem intent on listening and trying to understand the answers to their questions.

It appears that instead you wish to bait with a question so that you can argue, playing a game. An ego game.



Astounding philosophical and psychological detection work there Freedom. Your insightful contribution to this thread is duly noted. :smirk:

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Re: "Be Present" they say "But don't think!" [Re: RationalEgo]
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RationalEgo said:
Freedom said:
Well I did not make it all the way through this thread, but I noticed that the posters do not seem intent on listening and trying to understand the answers to their questions.

It appears that instead you wish to bait with a question so that you can argue, playing a game. An ego game.



Astounding philosophical and psychological detection work there Freedom. Your insightful contribution to this thread is duly noted. :smirk:



Person #1: "You can not cook a hot dog."

Person #2: "I cook hot dogs with the sun."

Person #1: "The sun is too far away, you fool."

If person #1 gave person #2 the benefit of the doubt, they would look for how person #2 could be right, rather than how they could be wrong.

You see, person #2 could use a magnifying glass, or a reflective cooker, or perhaps they are burning wood from trees that were grown from the sun's light. There are a thousand ways #2 could be right.

The problem is, we have incomplete knowledge. Why make assumptions and form beliefs when you have incomplete knowledge?

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Re: "Be Present" they say "But don't think!" [Re: Freedom]
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exactly why I don't waste time with those who claim to be rational yet aren't.


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Re: "Be Present" they say "But don't think!" [Re: Band of Gypsys]
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From many of your posts it seems you aren't always rational yourself.:shrug:

It's quite irrational imo to consider oneself rational.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: "Be Present" they say "But don't think!" [Re: Band of Gypsys]
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Band of Gypsys said:
exactly why I don't waste time with those who claim to be rational yet aren't.


you just did :wink:


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Re: "Be Present" they say "But don't think!" [Re: Chronic7]
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I mean starting right now.


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Re: "Be Present" they say "But don't think!" [Re: Band of Gypsys]
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yup pretty rational all right.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: "Be Present" they say "But don't think!" [Re: rebus_minus]
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rebus_minus said:
I am impressed to see you handle petty tyrants well, chronic. I agree you were treated unfairly by the self proclaimed vigilantes. :smile:


everything is said here... and in posts before hand.

sadly i had lost interst by this point and will stop reading but congrats on making a reasonable conclusion and then some.

props to freedom too

Edited by akira_akuma (11/03/09 07:05 AM)

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Re: "Be Present" they say "But don't think!" [Re: Band of Gypsys]
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Band of Gypsys said:
I mean starting right now.


:grin:


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Re: "Be Present" they say "But don't think!" [Re: RationalEgo]
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RationalEgo said:
I've read articles about the supposed 'benefits of meditation, that is where I came to this conclusion. Don't be so presumptuous as to think that I have not already done my research or that you are the only person to ever post links to articles for me on the subject.

Also, I did not say Ken was dumb, I did however make many statements in this thread about the zombie-like state that meditaters are advocating, Then you go and post that video. That was funny and it does actually prove my point more than it does yours. :lol:

Please excuse me if you don't share my sense of humour. Perhaps you just don't like that the joke is on you.


Is this the final episode of Caught up in Semantics?
Stay tuned...


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Re: "Be Present" they say "But don't think!" [Re: deranger]
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i thought that was me,... damn

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