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Re: Lott is a racist [Re: Evolving]
    #1142389 - 12/15/02 07:28 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

But that was 1964...



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Re: Lott is a racist [Re: angryshroom]
    #1142403 - 12/15/02 07:34 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Didn't Lott give a similar explanation about the deal with not letting blacks into his fraternity?


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Re: Lott is a racist [Re: Evolving]
    #1142408 - 12/15/02 07:38 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, but that was now :smile:



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Re: Lott is a racist [Re: Component]
    #1142423 - 12/15/02 07:47 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

There's no need for someone to step down for voicing their opinions. Remember free speech?

The guy is still an asshole.


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Re: Lott is a racist [Re: angryshroom]
    #1142821 - 12/15/02 11:39 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

so what if that was in 1964....that's like saying what Lott said was sooooo last week can't we move on?...kind of hypocritical don't ya think?


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Re: Lott is a racist [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1143877 - 12/15/02 06:31 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

No... 1964 was a long time ago, things have changed. Things have changed since last week but not in the same sense of over 30 years.

A lot of people would have still believed that segregationism was a good think 30 years ago, now people can actually realize its not. Im not saying what Gore sr. said was good thing, but still, that wasn't Al that was running for this presidential race, or even in the same timeframe ... I bet Lott's father still had a slave. hah


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Re: Lott is a racist [Re: angryshroom]
    #1144385 - 12/16/02 01:50 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

talk about a double standard...personally i couldn't careless but it's just amazing that the standards seem to lower when the politicians that libbies support screw up. Do you feel the same about Strom Thurman? It was a long time ago he believed what he believed. (i have no love for Strom, mind you)


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Edited by Innvertigo (12/16/02 01:51 AM)


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Re: Lott is a racist [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1144651 - 12/16/02 06:46 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Strom is worse because he was the one who ran for president under a segregationist platform. Almost all the old skool southern politicians, and many today are rascists. Just ask Jesse Helms.


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Re: Lott is a racist [Re: angryshroom]
    #1144730 - 12/16/02 07:19 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Al Gore Jr. was in The Klan according to a friend of mine who is in his family, his family also made their money from tobacco.


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Re: Lott is a racist [Re: Buddha5254]
    #1144857 - 12/16/02 08:04 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

It doesn't matter because it was a long time ago....... :smirk:

****and many today are rascists***

yes some even hate jews...


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Re: Lott is a racist [Re: Evolving]
    #1144859 - 12/16/02 08:05 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

***his family also made their money from tobacco. ***

say it isn't so :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:


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Re: Lott is a racist [Re: Buddha5254]
    #1145478 - 12/16/02 11:23 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Could someone post a link where I can read everything that Lott said?

I've been looking and can't seem to find anythign but his apology.


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Re: Lott is a racist [Re: Anonymous]
    #1145493 - 12/16/02 11:32 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

He said.....


// In case you missed it; Lott said to Thurmond's birthday audience "I want to say this about my state. When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years, either."

http://vikingphoenix.com/news/madminute/2002/mm2002-04.htm


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Edited by luvdemshrooms (12/16/02 11:33 AM)


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Re: Lott is a racist [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1145672 - 12/16/02 12:41 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

And Strom thurmond said this during the campaign Trent now wishes Strom had won:


"I wanna tell you, ladies and gentlemen, that there's not enough troops in the army to force the southern people to break down segregation and admit the nigger race into our theatres, into our swimming pools, into our homes and into our churches."



Trent Lott is trying backtrack his statements but in 1980 he felt the same way:"You know, if we had elected this man (Thurmond) 30 years ago, we wouldn't be in the mess we are today"


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Re: Lott is a racist [Re: sir tripsalot]
    #1145714 - 12/16/02 01:00 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Lott was just trying to say some nice things to an old coot on his 100th birthday. I think he was about 3 years old when the now fossilized former democrat ran for president.

How come nobody raises a stink about West Virginia Democrat, Robert Byrd a former member of the Ku Klux Klan? He used the word 'nigger' on nationwide television, not once, but twice. Odd how Klan membership and racial epithets get ignored for democrats.


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Edited by Evolving (12/16/02 01:01 PM)


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Re: Lott is a racist [Re: Evolving]
    #1145722 - 12/16/02 01:02 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Maybe because Byrd isn't as well-known as Trent Lott.


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Re: Lott is a racist [Re: Evolving]
    #1145726 - 12/16/02 01:03 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I hardly see how Lott endorsing Thurmond makes HIM racist.


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Re: Lott is a racist [Re: Anonymous]
    #1145734 - 12/16/02 01:05 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I agree. Lott was probably referring to other aspects of Thurmond's campaign, like state rights. Still, he should've known better than to make that statement.


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Re: Lott is a racist [Re: silversoul7]
    #1145735 - 12/16/02 01:06 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Maybe not to you. The last time the Democrats took control of the Senate (when Jeffords left the Republicans), Byrd was sworn in as president pro tempore, a post that is third in line for presidential succession.


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Re: Lott is a racist [Re: Evolving]
    #1145743 - 12/16/02 01:08 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Hmm...Interesting. Well, I blame the media for not covering it enough. I was not aware of this incident.


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