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can pinning in jars lead to bruised cakes? update with pics!
    #11352056 - 10/30/09 03:39 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I received a great Z print from another Shroomerite and made some syringes.
The BRF cakes I inoculated started to pin three days after full colonization.
Instead of waiting the usual week after full colonization I removed the cakes from the jars on the third day to remove the shrooms growing on them and to dunk and roll.
Now it's a week after being in the fruiting chamber and the cakes look to be bruised and fruiting like crazy.
I have never had cakes fruit so quickly or bruise like this.
Should I worry or just be happy?
I was hopeing to eat a few fresh tonight but I'm not going to if they may be contamed, sorry for no pics.


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Edited by mango man (10/30/09 04:13 PM)


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Re: can pinning in jars lead to bruised cakes? [Re: mango man]
    #11352082 - 10/30/09 03:44 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

if you had a pic that would help out. but its probably busing


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Re: can pinning in jars lead to bruised cakes? [Re: mango man]
    #11352181 - 10/30/09 04:03 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

So long as you don't have any open caps yet you can do a test for contam vs bluing.
Take a Q-Tip, lightly brush it along where the blue/contam is. If the q-tip doesn't get any of the discoloration on it, it's just bluing and you're fine. If stuff comes off it very well could be contam.


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Re: can pinning in jars lead to bruised cakes? [Re: Lucienis]
    #11352216 - 10/30/09 04:10 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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Lucienis said:
So long as you don't have any open caps yet you can do a test for contam vs bluing.
Take a Q-Tip, lightly brush it along where the blue/contam is. If the q-tip doesn't get any of the discoloration on it, it's just bluing and you're fine. If stuff comes off it very well could be contam.




the q tip test is bullshit.
your fruits are fine to eat.


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Re: can pinning in jars lead to bruised cakes? [Re: Lucienis]
    #11352219 - 10/30/09 04:10 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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sorry it took so long they at a friends house.
We just picked a few mature fruits before the pic was taken.


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Re: can pinning in jars lead to bruised cakes? [Re: prismism]
    #11352257 - 10/30/09 04:15 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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prismism said:
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Lucienis said:
So long as you don't have any open caps yet you can do a test for contam vs bluing.
Take a Q-Tip, lightly brush it along where the blue/contam is. If the q-tip doesn't get any of the discoloration on it, it's just bluing and you're fine. If stuff comes off it very well could be contam.




the q tip test is bullshit.
your fruits are fine to eat.




I disagree about the q-tip test.  Contams can rub off, bruising does not.  That being said, those look fine to me.  Keep updating with pics!


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Re: can pinning in jars lead to bruised cakes? [Re: cowfodder]
    #11352293 - 10/30/09 04:22 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Q-tip test was clean.


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Re: can pinning in jars lead to bruised cakes? [Re: prismism]
    #11352469 - 10/30/09 04:57 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

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prismism said:
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Lucienis said:
So long as you don't have any open caps yet you can do a test for contam vs bluing.
Take a Q-Tip, lightly brush it along where the blue/contam is. If the q-tip doesn't get any of the discoloration on it, it's just bluing and you're fine. If stuff comes off it very well could be contam.




the q tip test is bullshit.
your fruits are fine to eat.




Bluing doesn't rub off.
Contams do rub off.
So long as you're doing it before sporulation, then it would make sense that it's a fairly accurate way for someone who might not be sure of the color differences between bluing and contams.
I fail to see what part of this is bullshit?


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Re: can pinning in jars lead to bruised cakes? [Re: Lucienis]
    #11352517 - 10/30/09 05:04 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

RR on the q-tip test:

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THE Q-TIP TEST IS NULL AND VOID!

One of these days, that stupid q-tip test that doesn't work will no longer be repeated endlessly.  Bruising will rub off on a q-tip because the cotton swab will easily lift some of the mycelium.
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The q-tip test has been repeatedly proved bogus.  Bruised mycelium will often rub off on the q-tip, causing people to toss out good projects.

Bruising is easy to tell from molds.  Mold spores look like green sand on the surface as a distinct layer above the substrate.  Bruising is the color of the mycelium itself, as if you spilled blue or green ink and it soaked in.
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The q-tip test has been debunked.  Mushroom mycelium is delicate and will easily rub off on a q-tip, giving a false reading of mold.  Here's a recent thread with pictures that makes the point.
RR




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Re: can pinning in jars lead to bruised cakes? [Re: prismism]
    #11352842 - 10/30/09 05:57 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Blue color to cakes sometimes is an indication of a dry cake. However, you said you dunked the cake. So I would think the blue is a good sign.


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