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OfflineBrugman
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Time to bitch a little bit.
    #1135066 - 12/12/02 11:36 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I think it's strange how people will ingest a poisonous fungus and then complain when they have bad trips and stomach pains, or any other ill effects. _I_ think mushrooms are meant to make you feel that way, that's why they have the psilocybin. But us humans are strange, and can experience pleasurable effects from these mushrooms.
But yeah.. people seem to think it's just another drug, like acid or cocaine, where it's made just to get you high.
This isn't really a question at all..  :frown: just pointing something out.


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Re: Time to bitch a little bit. [Re: Brugman]
    #1135109 - 12/12/02 11:46 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I just hate it when people are like " Oh my god, I had the worst trip of my life, mushrooms are so scary" and then you ask them why and it turns out they are the most unstable person you have ever talked to....... Makes you think some people should stay away from psycadelics.


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Re: Time to bitch a little bit. [Re: Skikid16]
    #1135123 - 12/12/02 11:51 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

In reply to:

Makes you think some people should stay away from psycadelics.




No, it makes me think most people now a days should stay away from psychedelics, too many people just looking for a "buzz"


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Re: Time to bitch a little bit. [Re: Brugman]
    #1135171 - 12/12/02 12:04 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

people seem to think it's just another drug, like acid or cocaine, where it's made just to get you high

You can blame that on drug ed.


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Re: Time to bitch a little bit. [Re: Revelation]
    #1135338 - 12/12/02 12:49 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, you're exactly right. It's a bloody shame :frown:


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Re: Time to bitch a little bit. [Re: Brugman]
    #1135477 - 12/12/02 01:47 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Its because people don't respect what the drugs are. They don't care how it works as long as it fucks them up.


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Re: Time to bitch a little bit. [Re: TinMan]
    #1135510 - 12/12/02 02:01 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

respecting an drug....umm ok i respect things that can kil me, make me sick, cause brain damage... those are all qualities that i sure do love enough to respect them


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Re: Time to bitch a little bit. [Re: k0rupted]
    #1135536 - 12/12/02 02:15 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

If you don't respect the psychedelic experience then I'll have no pity for you when you are experiencing suffering beyond imagining in your own custom designed hell.


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Re: Time to bitch a little bit. [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1135697 - 12/12/02 03:19 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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If you don't respect the psychedelic experience then I'll have no pity for you when you are experiencing suffering beyond imagining in your own custom designed hell. 


I couldn't agree more, this is why I think that most people that have bad trips are to blame, cause they treat it like smoking weed, I mean I can be in any mood, smoke a bowl and feel alright, but not so with mushrooms.  There should be a stability and IQ requirement for using shrooms. :smile:


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Re: Time to bitch a little bit. [Re: Skikid16]
    #1135924 - 12/12/02 04:44 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Very much agreed.. it bugs me when those type of people do hallucinogens.
I don't think they deserve them. It's just abuse.  :tongue:
k0rupted.. you're a wank. That's all I can say..


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Re: Time to bitch a little bit. [Re: Brugman]
    #1135955 - 12/12/02 04:53 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

It's true that most drug users do not respect their substance.  Just yesterday I was dosing codeine with a very close friend and I wanted to gauge her dose by asking her how long ago and how much of a dose she had taken of vicodin in the past (since I knew she had taked said substance)... and she tells me she didn't know, she'd just pop some and start drinking. 

If we are ever to have a chance of legalizing questionable controlled substances, people need to be smart about what they do and prove that it would not be a detriment to society to allow free use of potentially dangerous substances.  But the problem is, most people are not willing to educate themselves adequately - or take the proper precautions - when dosing unknown chemicals. 

In either case, I want to thank Brugman for an excellent thread allowing my drunk ass to bitch a li'l bit.. it always makes me feel a bit better :cool:
 


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Re: Time to bitch a little bit. [Re: Brugman]
    #1136095 - 12/12/02 05:35 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

i am a wank... why cause drugs arent a big enough part of my life that i feel the need to respect them... damn guess thats makes me one pathetic peace of shit then :wink:


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Re: Time to bitch a little bit. [Re: Brugman]
    #1136596 - 12/12/02 08:04 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Shrooms aren't at all poisonous. Psilocybin is far safer than any pharmaceutical that millions of people worlwide have no second thoughts about popping.


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Re: Time to bitch a little bit. [Re: k0rupted]
    #1136790 - 12/12/02 10:10 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Even if drugs play a miniscule part in your life, if they play any part, you should respect them.


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Re: Time to bitch a little bit. [Re: k0rupted]
    #1136804 - 12/12/02 10:32 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

respect means basically not taking it to be FUCKED UP but rather stepping into a learning experience.


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Re: Time to bitch a little bit. [Re: Eightball]
    #1138770 - 12/13/02 02:18 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

the term 'drugs' to catagorize mushrooms is redundant.
What i hate the most is people who feel the need to come out and state that they have some patronage or control over what actually constitutes appropriate mushroom use.
For a start Brugman's 'other drugs like cocaine and acid' demonstrates the fact that he has never used acid. For one to consider acid as having any lesser a significant psychological impact than mushrooms is also redudant.
LSD by its nature is far stronger and a more powerful psychedelic tool than psilocybin/psilocin.
Whether you eat one mushroom a year and enjoy the buzz or like to experience some of McKenna's world does not reduce the significance of your use.


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Re: Time to bitch a little bit. [Re: Brugman]
    #1140415 - 12/14/02 09:12 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

some kid heard me talking about salvia to my girlfriends little sister. this kid is like... 13. he starts begging me to get a hit, cuz he knows he'll like it. he's gonna fuck himself up. shit like that is terrible. and it makes salvia illegal. i'm never gonna hook anybody who doesnt educate themselves on salvia first before doing it. i mean, i would never take a drug without knowing at least a lil bit about it. kids nowadays. fuck you ronald and nancy reagan, for your fucking "just say no to drugs" bullshit. people need education, not ignorance.


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Re: Time to bitch a little bit. [Re: Brugman]
    #1142201 - 12/15/02 05:24 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

i think we should call them magic potions instead of drugs we ca n all be wizards and stuf.f....hahahaha


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Re: Time to bitch a little bit. [Re: greenhaze]
    #1142220 - 12/15/02 05:48 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I usually find the people hating on shrooms are uneducated (about fungi) or have abused the fungi in some form.  I mean honestly, how could you degrade a non-addictive substance that grows naturally and shows one a new perspective on everyday things?
This guy tells me he hates mushrooms because he had a horrible trip and puked his guts out.  I asked him how much he took and he responded with, seven grams.  I mean cummon.  This was his first time and he thought he could handle 7 grams. Never!  Not to mention he was drunk when he took all seven grams.  This is an example of the stupidity.

anyway, not all bad trips are caused by these factors alone but i just wanted to rant as well  :grin:


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Re: Time to bitch a little bit. [Re: Brugman]
    #1142278 - 12/15/02 06:22 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Are magic mushrooms poisnous? Psilocybin comes around 400 places lower than aspirin in the "toxicity" stakes.


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