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ID HELP REQUEST - FOUND IN SOUTH AFRICA - PLEASE HELP!
    #11350304 - 10/30/09 08:50 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Hi Guys,
We found these growing in my garden.
Where really struggling to confirm id of the following shrooms.
I know they look like Panaeolus cinctulus and some look like Psilocybe semilanceata.
Would really appretiate the help!
Also could someone confirm if they might be poisonuos?

More Information Below!!!

Speciment #1 :



Habitat:theyre growing all over my lawn, that is on a horse farm, in south africa. Short Grass with tons of horse dung. Have had rainy weather lately. Spread over large areas of about, 3-5 m in diameter.


Gills:
Jetblack/Brown and somtimes purpleish blue. ( See Photos )
Closely Spaced

Stem:
between 5 - 10 cm. Lines travel up stem, Brownish Color.

Cap:
2.5 cm diameter, Pan.

Spore print color.
Dont know how to take one. ( PLEASE ADVISE ON BEGINER METHOD )


Other information:
at the tip of the root when we pulled them out,there was a white/blue sheath. Have also found 4 other species growing in the same area.  Harvestd about 500-700. ( 200g @ Wet Weight )

Speciment # 2 : **NB** These grew inbetween #1! Same Habitat



Specimet #3 : **NB** grew in a similar habitat,except in shorter more clover like grass in the shade.



Stem : +- 5cm also Quite hard.

Speciment #4 : ***NB*** thses grew in a area shaded most of the day and at the foot of a tree where there is no grass.

Cap: Slightly transparent when held up to the sun. Very Soft,Crumble at a touch.

Stem : White.



Speciment #5 : **NB** These grew in the same habitat as #4



I will atempt to collect spore prints for all of the above shortly.
PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU THINK ANY MIGHT BE POISONOUS!!!
Also any noob method for collecting prints would be appretited.

Thank you!


Edited by saspore (10/30/09 03:44 PM)


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Re: ID HELP - SOUTH AFRICAN - [Re: saspore]
    #11350326 - 10/30/09 09:07 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Some of those look like Panaeolina foenisecii and some like Panaeolus, just not exactly sure which ones. The foenisecii should have a brown spore print and any of the Panaeolus should have a black spore print.

I am pretty darn sure that all of them will at leave a dark spore print so you can either cut the caps off and put them on wax paper or just a white sheet of paper.


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Re: ID HELP - SOUTH AFRICAN - [Re: saspore]
    #11350365 - 10/30/09 09:25 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

None of them look like Psilocybe semilanceata. I think they are Panaeolina foenisecii. Definitely take spore prints and post them here, though.


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Re: ID HELP - SOUTH AFRICAN - [Re: German Kahuna]
    #11350698 - 10/30/09 11:17 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

I believe you have Panaeolus cinctulus because of the grooves in the stems and because they where growing in dung. Make sure the spore print is jet black and you have your answer.


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Re: ID HELP - SOUTH AFRICAN - [Re: Purple_spore]
    #11351091 - 10/30/09 12:55 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Stems seem kind of thick so I am going to go with Panaeolus cinctulus as well.


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Re: ID HELP - SOUTH AFRICAN - [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11351104 - 10/30/09 12:57 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Maybe it's just the pictures, but I see no shots there with jet black/purplish blue gills.


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Re: ID HELP - SOUTH AFRICAN - [Re: ShockValue]
    #11351127 - 10/30/09 01:04 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

I dunno, definitely spore print

from most of the pics I would say panaeolus but it's quite possible all are not the same.


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Re: ID HELP - SOUTH AFRICAN - [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #23969929 - 12/31/16 07:04 AM (9 months, 16 days ago)

Yes Alan P.Cinctulus is common in Kwazulu Natal horse farms. We find thousands here in Botha's Hill.


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