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 Imorph
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 How far do you compost Hpoo or manures for substrate ? 
#11345745 - 10/29/09 04:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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top o the day to my fellow fungi lovers,
Mr Parathesia i believe that you have some knowledge in this area.
..but anyone feel free to give info on this subject, that has experiences with Elm and Eryngii oysters on manures and composts...
how far do you compost the (Equine)manures? do you do a partial compost of horse manures or a full compost? i'm thinking that a full complete compost would be nearly humus. Do you partial or half decompose then pasteurize for spawning?
i have plenty of Alfalfa but not lots of wheat straw in my area...so i am thinking that i could use easier to find Hpoo. thanks Imorph
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Re: How far do you compost Hpoo or manures for substrate ? [Re: Imorph]
#11347216 - 10/29/09 08:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I can't tell you how long, but the ammonia smell has to be over with. Less than .5% is normal for dung lovers, maybe even less for woodlovers.
If there is an ammonia smell, it's not ready yet.
Good growing,
Jef
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Imorph
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Re: How far do you compost Hpoo or manures for substrate ? [Re: Jef]
#11350791 - 10/30/09 11:39 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thx Jef again for the input,
So it's basically driving the ammonia off the dung or waiting for it to AGE, then some pasteurization scheme.
i have made compost in a small composter with plant and veggy scraps but this was to get to a near humus state as possible. it then would go into my small garden.
a little wht straw is around but alfalfa (to rich for bulk) is here plenty for the western horsemen....therefore lots of horse boo boo though. thx Imorph
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 solumvita
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Re: How far do you compost Hpoo or manures for substrate ? [Re: Imorph]
#11361723 - 11/01/09 11:55 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Why do you have to compost it, can you not just spread it out, dry it and use it with the alfalfa (sterilized) ?
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Imorph
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Re: How far do you compost Hpoo or manures for substrate ? [Re: solumvita]
#11364969 - 11/01/09 09:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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hello all, yes Solumvita i could just dry it out and make sure that there is no ammonia smell before using it.
i also am under the impression that with some mushrooms the composting in it self predigest and releases more nutriments from the Poo or straw. this may not be necessary with the Pleurotus family because they have enzymes to digest anything vegetable.
i know your specialty, the V. volvacea in some procedures the straw likes a couple of days "fermenting" or mildly composting before you add spawn. the fermentation makes the straw more digestible for the fungi.
On the other hand your successful tek is to get the pile going towards high temps for the Paddy Straw to be fruit and multiply. i think there maybe some positive changes also to the straws digestibility during the high temps.
i just wondered and had been using the search function for composting details. so i decided to shout at the Pros for advice. thx everyone Imorph
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