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Quick side of the road find, need ID. (Honeys?)
    #11344384 - 10/29/09 12:26 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Habitat:
Where does it grow? Eg. woods, pasture, state, province, country, altitude, etc. What does it grow on? Eg. soil, dung, wood (dead, living, what kind of wood?), etc.
Southeast Texas (4th largest city, approx. @ sea level) growing in clusters on a stump. Don't know what kind of stump, but I'm guessing oak.

Gills:
Color, attached/not, gills/pores, etc.
Gills cream colored, slightly decurrent.

Stem:
Length, diameter, color, texture, hollow/solid, thin/thick, etc.
Stem length approx 2-4 inches, solid, slightly fibrous, not thin, not thick, white to cream colored, no dramatic bruising but slight discoloration where cut or broken.

Cap:
Diameter, color, texture, conical/spherical, convex/concave, etc.
Caps 1-3 inches across, convex, slighly curled under at the edges. Yellowish, mottled with darker spots/dots

Spore print color:
Very important!
Still printing, but I'm guessing light... white to cream probably.

Bruising:
Color that the mushroom bruises, if any.
No bruising apparent.

Other information:
Scent of the mushroom, anything else you think is important, large close-up pictures showing stem, cap and gills.
Smells either slightly sweet or woody. Not sure. I've had three people including myself smell it and we have different answers. Smells good, and not a very "mushroomy" smell. Growing in clusters. On a stump.

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Re: Quick side of the road find, need ID. (Honeys?) [Re: PinheadX]
    #11344426 - 10/29/09 12:36 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Dammit, Picasa... here are the pics. Sorry about that













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Re: Quick side of the road find, need ID. (Honeys?) [Re: PinheadX]
    #11344437 - 10/29/09 12:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Armillaria tabescens.


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Re: Quick side of the road find, need ID. (Honeys?) [Re: PinheadX]
    #11344464 - 10/29/09 12:43 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe Armillariella tabescens or Omphalotus olearius they seem to be lacking the veil so I'm leaning towards the first. Wait for spore print and TI

German got in there before me and says the first also. 


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Re: Quick side of the road find, need ID. (Honeys?) [Re: German Kahuna]
    #11344584 - 10/29/09 01:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Cool. If they're A. tabescens, it's my first time finding them. Glad these aren't parasitic. (not that I care about whether they're parasitic or not, but because I like trees and don't wanna see them die of parasitic fungus)


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Re: Quick side of the road find, need ID. (Honeys?) [Re: PinheadX]
    #11344636 - 10/29/09 01:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

PinheadX said:
Cool. If they're A. tabescens, it's my first time finding them. Glad these aren't parasitic. (not that I care about whether they're parasitic or not, but because I like trees and don't wanna see them die of parasitic fungus)




They are parasitic...
http://www.mushroomexpert.com/armillaria_tabescens.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armillaria_tabescens


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Re: Quick side of the road find, need ID. (Honeys?) [Re: PinheadX]
    #11344699 - 10/29/09 01:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Even though it might appear to grow underneath trees in clusters in the grass, Armillaria tabescens grows from the tree's roots, so I am afraid to say that it is parasitic, like all honeys.


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Re: Quick side of the road find, need ID. (Honeys?) [Re: German Kahuna]
    #11344722 - 10/29/09 01:38 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

then i take it you cant
cultivate these indoors?

  -noobie-


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not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.

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Re: Quick side of the road find, need ID. (Honeys?) [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #11344732 - 10/29/09 01:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You might. They grow on living trees as a parasite. I've never heard of anyone trying to cultivate them. They are edible, but they aren't choice.


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Re: Quick side of the road find, need ID. (Honeys?) [Re: German Kahuna]
    #11344738 - 10/29/09 01:42 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

:thumbup:

  -noobie-


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CapZilla said:
not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.

Citric said:
Your signature is wrong on colonization temps!

GOOD JUDGMENT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE
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ROOM TEMP 70-75 IS BEST FOR COLONIZATION
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Re: Quick side of the road find, need ID. (Honeys?) [Re: PinheadX]
    #11344870 - 10/29/09 02:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I didn't mean that the species wasn't parasitic, I meant that this cluster wasn't parasitic, it was saprobic. Dead stump.

but yeah, I know Armillaria are parasitic. That's why I said what I said. Sorry if I was a bit unclear with my comment.


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Re: Quick side of the road find, need ID. (Honeys?) [Re: PinheadX]
    #11349418 - 10/30/09 01:27 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I've found tons of these in the Houston area over the last week. I've only eaten them once, since I seem to keep them in the fridge a day too long and the insect larvae hatch.  If you're not interested in the supplemental protein, check the stems to make sure they're solid before you cook them.

As far as cultivation goes, I don't think they're really good enough to go to the trouble, not to mention the amount of damage you could cause to the local oak population!  Armillaria mellea IS commercially cultivated in China.  You can find dried honey mushrooms at some of the bigger asian grocery stores here.  Or.. you could just pick the wild ones that come up everywhere in the Fall, for free. :laugh:


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