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Offlinekaosisallwesee
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Gymnopilus ID
    #11343759 - 10/29/09 07:07 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

i found some mushrooms growing on a tree stump
i think there gyms but im not sure there orange to yellow a fairly fibrous stem , slight veil attached, gills are a bit more dull than the stem and cap. they also bruise a little bit green after an hour or 2.
the spore print is kinda brown purple and a bit dark. they were found in late October in the UK.

i havnt got a camera at the moment so i found some pictures that look almost identical.


especially these with the wierd looking stem

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Re: Gymnopilus ID [Re: kaosisallwesee]
    #11343777 - 10/29/09 07:13 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

ohh sorry forgot the reason i posted from my description are they gyms,, and are there any look-a-likes that are deadly or harmful.
thanks for the help
peace

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Re: Gymnopilus ID [Re: kaosisallwesee]
    #11343796 - 10/29/09 07:18 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Yes those are gyms, im not sure what species though.


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Re: Gymnopilus ID [Re: MycOhunter]
    #11343954 - 10/29/09 08:17 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

is that based on the pictures or my description.is the spore print/bruising correct for gym sp.

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Re: Gymnopilus ID [Re: kaosisallwesee]
    #11343982 - 10/29/09 08:23 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Your spore print is the wrong color for Gymnopilus.

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Re: Gymnopilus ID [Re: HerbBaker]
    #11344051 - 10/29/09 08:44 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Did they look like this?



If so, its Hypholoma fasciculare.


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Re: Gymnopilus ID [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #11344184 - 10/29/09 09:34 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

purple brown sounds like some kind of hypholoma, however they do look alot like some gyms iv found...the spore print should be a distinctive orange color.  And if you are willing to send me a spore print i would be happy to tell you 100% what you got there.

PS: if they did indeed bruise greenish/blue then im fairly certain you got some active species of gym.
Due to your spore print color, dont consume these yet...Allow someone on the shroomery to do some microscopy to verify. Send me a PM if you want help.


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Re: Gymnopilus ID [Re: TheShroomanizer]
    #11344228 - 10/29/09 09:48 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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TheShroomanizer said:
they do look alot like some gyms iv found...




Those aren't pictures of his specimens. He said they look like the mushrooms in the pictures.

He has a Hypholoma species if the print is purple, and H. fasciculare is known to have a green tint to it.

Probably toxic.

Post pictures of the actual specimens if you want to really verify their identity.


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Re: Gymnopilus ID [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #11344248 - 10/29/09 09:52 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

hmm thought fasciculare had greenish tented gills, and he said after 2 hours they "bruised" now i could see how a nooby could mistake original color with bruising, but i wasnt aware that H. Fasciculare bruised greenish on the stem?


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Re: Gymnopilus ID [Re: TheShroomanizer]
    #11344258 - 10/29/09 09:54 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

The H. fasciculare I find here in Washington are neon yellow, almost greenish yellow. That is including the stems.

There's a log in my yard that fruits them from time to time. Had a huge flush last week, if more pop up I'll snap a few pics.


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Re: Gymnopilus ID [Re: TheShroomanizer]
    #11344374 - 10/29/09 10:22 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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TheShroomanizer said:
hmm thought fasciculare had greenish tented gills, and he said after 2 hours they "bruised" now i could see how a nooby could mistake original color with bruising, but i wasnt aware that H. Fasciculare bruised greenish on the stem?




From their first flush the gills are green right outta the gate, I have not seen the stipes bruise green on fasciculare.

Sorry OP, I didn't read your full description, that was very irresponsible of me, if I had noticed the spore color I would not have said gymnopilus.

Are you sure it is not just brownish, some gym prints are almost pure brown looking with no orange tints and people can confuse this for purplish brown, I have seen a number of agrocybe, psilocybe, as well as psathyrella prints that were definitely brown but people said they were purplish brown.



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Re: Gymnopilus ID [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #11344641 - 10/29/09 11:23 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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BlimeyGrimey said:
Did they look like this?



If so, its Hypholoma fasciculare.



yep almost identical but as they mature the cap opens upwards a bit and they get a bit wavy
they had a slight green bruise from cutting the stem, it was only a bit but definitely there. il get some more specimens and take some more prints and try get some pictures up.

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Re: Gymnopilus ID [Re: kaosisallwesee]
    #11344647 - 10/29/09 11:24 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

thanks
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Re: Gymnopilus ID [Re: kaosisallwesee]
    #11344666 - 10/29/09 11:27 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Gymnopilus ID [Re: kaosisallwesee]
    #11344696 - 10/29/09 11:32 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

If you can post a picture of the print, that would also help a bit.
did the gills and stem look like this? when you said "wavy stem" thats what i thought of.


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