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OfflineShroomboy2002
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Yield?
    #1131097 - 12/11/02 03:54 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Mushrooms is ready to be picked when the edge of the cap tears away from the stem. But if I let it grow bigger I know he potency won't increase but will I get a better yield? Or do I get higher numbers but smaller shrooms if I harvest them immediatly when the viel tears?
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Re: Yield? [Re: Shroomboy2002]
    #1131105 - 12/11/02 04:05 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Bigger mushrooms = more weight = bigger yield. You just have to eat a little more, still looks impressive.


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Re: Yield? [Re: KillerClown]
    #1131127 - 12/11/02 04:40 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

So I won't get more mushrooms if I harvest earlier?


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Re: Yield? [Re: Shroomboy2002]
    #1131140 - 12/11/02 05:03 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

perhaps i dont quite understand the question. The yield is the amount of mushrooms your casing is producing. If you decide to crop them right after the veil breaks or when the cap is fully open, the yield will still be the same. What will perhaps be different will be the potency.

Thats a different question and i really would like to know the answer. :smile: i dont. I usually crop them when the cap is really open. 


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Re: Yield? [Re: kykeon]
    #1131152 - 12/11/02 05:23 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

What I mean is that if I harvest early I'll get more mushrooms. And then fewer, bigger but less potent shrooms if I havest later.
Is this true?
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Re: Yield? [Re: Shroomboy2002]
    #1131156 - 12/11/02 05:30 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

u mean, if u crop them right after the veil breaks, you will have many more mushrooms than if u crop them when the cap fully opens?

i doubt it.

but i am no God, so lets listen to what others wil say


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Re: Yield? [Re: kykeon]
    #1131158 - 12/11/02 05:32 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

"bigger and less potent"? i dont think it's correct
maybe i am wrong though


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Re: Yield? [Re: Shroomboy2002]
    #1131189 - 12/11/02 06:20 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

i understand your question, in general, and excluding a good number of other factors, you will get a similar total wieght if you harvest right away as if you wait till full maturity to harvest. the nember of other factors that come into play include:
1.) not all of your mushrooms are going to develop at the same rate, so you may have fully mature fruits ready to harvest but have to wait on slower ones, thus delaying the onset of your next flush.
2.)your casing/cake may not be under ideal conditions, thus effecting the onset of your next flush.
so it's realy hard to say in practice.
in regaurd to the potency, i think htey just slow down on psiloc(in/ybin) production at this stage, not stop all at once, so you're still gaining more actives.
on the other hand, you're delaying the start of your next (more botent by at least some) flush.
i am in need of sleep so i'm sorry if the answer wasn't well organized or clear, i try.
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Re: Yield? [Re: Shroomboy2002]
    #1131554 - 12/11/02 10:31 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

If I may add, it has never been proven only theorized that the alkaloid production stops as soon as the veil breaks, (IMO) if anything the production would slowly decrease as it started to sporulate.
I let my mushrooms mature, and notice absolutely no decrease in potency then when picked when the veil breaks. :smile: 


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Re: Yield? [Re: TeKn0]
    #1131650 - 12/11/02 11:04 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Uh oh when Vatoloco comes in here someone is going to get an ass whooping! There is much controversy if psilocybin production stops when the veil starts tearing or it keeps producing psilocybin. Either way I would wait for cap to open.


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Re: Yield? [Re: Shroomboy2002]
    #1131955 - 12/11/02 08:19 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

In answer to your question,
Yes you would have a larger mushroom therefore a higher yield if you wait for the cap to open, as it has not completed it's growth cycle, sometimes if you let them mature for too long, they will eventually collapse on there own weight.


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Re: Yield? [Re: TeKn0]
    #1132224 - 12/11/02 09:58 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Hmmm, I think this is an interesting issue. Anyone who knows the answer?
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Re: Yield? [Re: Shroomboy2002]
    #1132243 - 12/11/02 10:08 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

The veil breaking from the cap is a focal point in shroom growth. By letting it get bigger you simply using up nutrients and water which could be better used for more mushrooms in later flushes. Just my opinion though.


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Re: Yield? [Re: djcube]
    #1132368 - 12/11/02 10:53 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Technically ever batch of mushrooms will have different potencies. Hell, I wouldnt doubt that each shroom you pick off a cake varies a great deal in potency. So if you miss the prime picking time there's no worries really, I've pretty much stuck to the 2.5g dosage all my tripping life and have found very big differences in every 2.5g bag (weighed out perectly, mind you).
But on the topic of if you pick it, well, I suppose that'd leave the cake with more nutrients, but I doubt every last bit gets used anyways. There's no way to really answer your question with absolute certainty. But the general consensus is, pick them when the viel tears!


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Re: Yield? [Re: djcube]
    #1132417 - 12/11/02 11:09 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

in Replt to : By letting it get bigger you simply using up nutrients and water which could be better used for more mushrooms in later flushes. Just my opinion though


Wow ur right i cant believe i never thought of that, hey nice 1st post man.


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Re: Yield? [Re: SubGen1us]
    #1132425 - 12/11/02 11:13 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

so basically if ur right and pick the mushrooms right before the veil open, it leaves more nutrients for more mushrooms, if they dont get any more potent, ud be wasting soil(food) just to make em bigger, or u can have more higher potent mushrooms, it makes perfect sence.


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Re: Yield? [Re: SubGen1us]
    #1134352 - 12/12/02 04:49 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks alot, that's what I thought but I wasn't sure. I'll definiatly pick them right after the viel tears :wink:
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