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OfflineFleshCap
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U.K. Chief Drug Adviser Claims: "Alcohol More Dangerous than LSD"
    #11341983 - 10/28/09 11:42 PM (8 years, 28 days ago)

MSN NEWS U.K.

Government's chief drug adviser claimed LSD was less dangerous than alcohol.

The Government's chief drug adviser has sparked controversy by claiming ecstasy, LSD and cannabis are less dangerous than both alcohol and cigarettes.



Professor David Nutt, chairman of the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs, attacked the decision to make cannabis a class B drug.He accused former home secretary Jacqui Smith, who reclassified the drug, of "distorting and devaluing" scientific research.

Prof Nutt said smoking cannabis created only a "relatively small risk" of psychotic illness. And he claimed advocates of moving ecstasy into class B from class A had "won the intellectual argument".

All drugs, including alcohol and tobacco, should be ranked by a "harm" index, he said, with alcohol coming fifth behind cocaine, heroin, barbiturates, and methadone.

Tobacco should rank ninth, ahead of cannabis, LSD and ecstasy.
Prof Nutt said: "No one is suggesting that drugs are not harmful. The critical question is one of scale and degree. We need a full and open discussion of the evidence and a mature debate about what the drug laws are for - and whether they are doing their job."

In a lecture and briefing paper for the Centre for Crime and Justice Studies at King's College, London, Prof Nutt attacked what he called the "artificial" separation of alcohol and tobacco from other, illegal, drugs. He also repeated his claim that the risks of taking ecstasy are no worse than riding a horse.

A Home Office spokesman said: "Prof Nutt's views are his own and do not reflect the views of Government. The Government is clear - we are determined to crack down on all illegal substances and minimise their harm to health and society as a whole."


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Re: U.K. Chief Drug Adviser Claims: "Alcohol More Dangerous than LSD" [Re: FleshCap]
    #11342017 - 10/28/09 11:47 PM (8 years, 28 days ago)

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Re: U.K. Chief Drug Adviser Claims: "Alcohol More Dangerous than LSD" [Re: learningtofly]
    #11342056 - 10/28/09 11:52 PM (8 years, 28 days ago)

He also repeated his claim that the risks of taking ecstasy are no worse than riding a horse.

if I recall thats actually pretty dangerous



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Re: U.K. Chief Drug Adviser Claims: "Alcohol More Dangerous than LSD" [Re: learningtofly]
    #11342060 - 10/28/09 11:53 PM (8 years, 28 days ago)

I wonder how long it will be before this is common knowledge. As long as alcohol is legal and LSD is illegal things won't change though


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Re: U.K. Chief Drug Adviser Claims: "Alcohol More Dangerous than LSD" [Re: Revolutionine]
    #11342295 - 10/29/09 12:21 AM (8 years, 28 days ago)

I really like this guy :smile:


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Re: U.K. Chief Drug Adviser Claims: "Alcohol More Dangerous than LSD" [Re: FleshCap]
    #11342653 - 10/29/09 01:16 AM (8 years, 28 days ago)

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A Home Office spokesman said: "Prof Nutt's views are his own and do not reflect the views of Government. The Government is clear - we are determined to crack down on all illegal substances and minimise their harm to health and society as a whole."




:facepalm:

So close to progress... yet still so far.


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Re: U.K. Chief Drug Adviser Claims: "Alcohol More Dangerous than LSD" [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #11342714 - 10/29/09 01:26 AM (8 years, 28 days ago)

Prof Nutt, its pretty funny


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Re: U.K. Chief Drug Adviser Claims: "Alcohol More Dangerous than LSD" [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #11342763 - 10/29/09 01:32 AM (8 years, 28 days ago)

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FleshCap said:
A Home Office spokesman said: "Prof Nutt's views are his own and do not reflect the views of Government. The Government is clear - we are determined to crack down on all illegal substances and minimise their harm to health and society as a whole."




:facepalm:

So close to progress... yet still so far.




Sad, isn't it? That the answer may have something to do with re-examining the legality of these substances never seems to occur to them, it's just easier to repeat that tired old mantra.


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Re: U.K. Chief Drug Adviser Claims: "Alcohol More Dangerous than LSD" [Re: buddhabadger]
    #11343161 - 10/29/09 03:06 AM (8 years, 28 days ago)

:rail2: > :faded:




:highfive:


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Re: U.K. Chief Drug Adviser Claims: "Alcohol More Dangerous than LSD" [Re: smack]
    #11343180 - 10/29/09 03:12 AM (8 years, 28 days ago)

old news? I think I saw this a while back, I totally remember prof. nutt.


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Re: U.K. Chief Drug Adviser Claims: "Alcohol More Dangerous than LSD" [Re: tempingasashaman]
    #11343254 - 10/29/09 03:34 AM (8 years, 28 days ago)

someone with at least half a neuron!


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Re: U.K. Chief Drug Adviser Claims: "Alcohol More Dangerous than LSD" [Re: Lucas89]
    #11344044 - 10/29/09 10:42 AM (8 years, 27 days ago)

I hate alcohol rock on LDS..


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Re: U.K. Chief Drug Adviser Claims: "Alcohol More Dangerous than LSD" [Re: Polk_Audio3]
    #11344063 - 10/29/09 10:51 AM (8 years, 27 days ago)

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I hate alcohol rock on LDS..



HELL YEAH I LOVE ME SOME LATTER DAY SAINTS BRAHHH :awesome:


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Re: U.K. Chief Drug Adviser Claims: "Alcohol More Dangerous than LSD" [Re: GetTheFuckOut]
    #11344187 - 10/29/09 11:35 AM (8 years, 27 days ago)

There are much more alcohol dependent in the world than cannabis... also it does much more harm.


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Re: U.K. Chief Drug Adviser Claims: "Alcohol More Dangerous than LSD" [Re: GetTheFuckOut]
    #11344265 - 10/29/09 11:55 AM (8 years, 27 days ago)

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I hate alcohol rock on LDS..



HELL YEAH I LOVE ME SOME LATTER DAY SAINTS BRAHHH :awesome:




:thumbup:


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Re: U.K. Chief Drug Adviser Claims: "Alcohol More Dangerous than LSD" [Re: Humility]
    #11344767 - 10/29/09 01:49 PM (8 years, 27 days ago)

a couple of jehovah witnesses stopped by house and gave me a couple hits of LDS. They then instructed to me to place them on my tongue and started to rant about how their god is far superior to the typical supplier of lysergic. I've never felt holier.


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Re: U.K. Chief Drug Adviser Claims: "Alcohol More Dangerous than LSD" [Re: FleshCap]
    #11345866 - 10/29/09 04:57 PM (8 years, 27 days ago)

This is unusual. Someone else is making sense! That's progress!


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Re: U.K. Chief Drug Adviser Claims: "Alcohol More Dangerous than LSD" [Re: GetTheFuckOut]
    #11346935 - 10/29/09 07:47 PM (8 years, 27 days ago)

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PolkAudio2 said:
I hate alcohol rock on LDS..



HELL YEAH I LOVE ME SOME LATTER DAY SAINTS BRAHHH :awesome:





LOL


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Re: U.K. Chief Drug Adviser Claims: [Re: Lucas89]
    #11351428 - 10/30/09 02:07 PM (8 years, 26 days ago)

The government have now sacked him for criticising their policies.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8334774.stm

"The UK's chief drugs adviser has been sacked by Home Secretary Alan Johnson after criticising government policies.
Professor David Nutt, head of the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs, criticised the decision to reclassify cannabis to Class B from C.
He accused ministers of devaluing and distorting evidence and said drugs classification was being politicised.
The home secretary said he had "lost confidence" in his advice and asked him to step down."


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