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Please Help ID Amanita from VT
    #11339494 - 10/28/09 05:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I found these last week and decided to wait a week before picking. I was thrilled to find so many more this morning, but they look different than the other Amanita I have picked and used. Let me know what you think they are. The yellow residue throws me off a bit.

Habitat: Found in landscaped mulch bed under a Fur/Pine tree, half total shade - half total sun,

Overall: found two different bunches that were packed together, no loners, Yellow residue on all.

Gills: The gill color is a white or cream. The gills seem attached to the stem and sub-distant?

Stem: Whitish, creamy, meaty, enlarged at base, appears to have rings, some stems are very thick

Cap: Orange to Yellow, some gold and some almost reddish, white to yellow warts, 2-5 inches in diameter, none have reached full maturity.

Spore print color: Coming Soon.

Bruising: No color change was observed.

Location: Picked in Vermont USA




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Re: Please Help ID Amanita from VT [Re: AbstractWisdom]
    #11339525 - 10/28/09 05:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

They look like muscaria to me.


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Re: Please Help ID Amanita from VT [Re: AbstractWisdom]
    #11339527 - 10/28/09 05:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Its either Amanita amerimuscaria or Amanita muscaria var. persicina.

Rod's page http://pluto.njcc.com/~ret/amanita/species/muscpers.html doesn't list persicina as occurring as far north as Vermont, but maybe that is what you have.


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Re: Please Help ID Amanita from VT [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11339545 - 10/28/09 05:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Alan Rockefeller said:
Its either Amanita amerimuscaria or Amanita muscaria var. persicina.

Rod's page http://pluto.njcc.com/~ret/amanita/species/muscpers.html doesn't list persicina as occurring as far north as Vermont, but maybe that is what you have.




They look a little dark to be Persicina, I think of them as being more melon colored instead of that dark red. Maybe just the location creates differences than what im used to.


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Re: Please Help ID Amanita from VT [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #11339586 - 10/28/09 05:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Very Cool Alan. I know Amerimuscaria can be edible if dried correctly, i usually make a tea or a grail. These look more intense than my spring and summer picks.

If dried, Is var. persicina edible as well?


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Re: Please Help ID Amanita from VT [Re: AbstractWisdom]
    #11339617 - 10/28/09 05:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yea.  Amerimuscaria seems more likely in any case.


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Re: Please Help ID Amanita from VT [Re: AbstractWisdom]
    #11339657 - 10/28/09 05:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

They look like Muscaria to me.
The fugitive cap colour fades to orange or yellow with age or after heavy rain.


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Re: Please Help ID Amanita from VT [Re: feyomi]
    #11339757 - 10/28/09 06:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Amanita amerimuscaria


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    #11339795 - 10/28/09 06:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Those are Amanita persicina nom. prov.
..it is a distinct species from both A. muscaria and A. amerimuscaria.

I don't believe the red form of A. amerimuscaria occurs in the east.

Well done!


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Re: Please Help ID Amanita from VT [Re: HerbBaker]
    #11340799 - 10/28/09 08:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks Warrior and everyone else for that matter. The color in real life is exactly like a peach. I am pretty pumped, the wide stems are a riot. Tea should be nice, Keep on..


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Re: Please Help ID Amanita from VT [Re: AbstractWisdom]
    #11425108 - 11/10/09 12:07 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

No prob, this find has got me pumped!

You got any dry samples left that you could spare for microscopy?


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    #11426923 - 11/10/09 04:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

It's been pointed out to me by Rod Tulloss that these may actually be Amanita wellsii, it is believed to also contain ibotenic acid and muscimol. How was the tea? :blazed:


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Re: Please Help ID Amanita from VT [Re: HerbBaker]
    #11563032 - 12/01/09 04:13 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Hey Herb!! The harvest is undergoing a 90 day cure before I try them, they're all sealed up. My tea experience in the past has gone quite well, euphoric, dreamlike and certainly creatively inspiring. Not too long ago i tried to eat what I thought were dried specimens and I'm not messing around with Ibutonic poisoning again, hence the curing. I will let you know how this batch goes in february.

What kind of sample would you need? would a piece of stem do? peace man


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